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prideofidaho
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Kenny Kimchee wrote: |
| Freddypops wrote: |
I don't understand why people point out that average western fellas in Korea or Japan or China or Thailand (blah blah blah) can get a sexy girlfriend as if there's something wrong with it. Why the fvck shouldn't we, er I mean they, do it if they can? When that hot young filly starts coming on to you, you should say "sorry, but back home you'd be out of me league, so I'm gonna say no?" I've seen plenty of other average of worse than average chaps strutting around with a gorgeous Korean girl, too.
I'm a deeply average looking fella (pretty buffed out body, but not that handsome) and my current girlfriend is my latest in a string of young lovelies who, by all accounts, have been much better looking than me. It's one of the only reasons I put up with a lot of the 우리 나라 nonsense. How fast would most of us be out of here if Korean women weren't freely available?
Regarding western girls, all the occidental ladies I know here either have a western boyfriend or have poisonous, toxic FWB arrangements with western colleagues or military types. (Actually, I know one Irish girl with a Korean boyfriend.) But my western gal friends aren't bitter; they don't care that "their" (apparently geekly and ugly) western men are enjoying hot fluid swap action with Choson beauties.
Phew. Someone towel me down, I'm sweatin'. |
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YES! If you don't care, I don't. In fact, I'm happy you guys are having so much fun. If there's one thing I'm jealous about it's that the rain makes my hair frizzy and awful. Yep, that's pretty much it. Well that, and an LBH is still an LBH regardless of gender. |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Funny how just about every comment I've read here relates to looks.
Being a guy, I can sit back and laugh at the guys here gloating how beautiful their Korean girlfriend are. Guys are pretty damn shallow.
Have you ever noticed how much conversation goes on between W-boy/K-gal couples? not much from what I've seen. Some can't even communicate at all, it's quite amusing, which I think goes to show many guys are just wanting a pretty Asian girl to show off.
Guys strut around with their princess like they're holding a Gucci handbag, showing off their "prize" while the girls are beaming with delight that they're so cool and international. I think they deserve each other.
Whenever there is a thread is about this topic, it always goes on for pages and pages as it attracts insecure and average looking guys trying to justify their shallowness.
Maybe some couples have a "connection" but I think in most cases it's just a little ego boosting, "look at me! my girlfriend is pretty!" but take a look around, seeing some of the quality of the guys here and the beauty of the women they are with just goes to show many K-gals aren't too picky at all.
Before you flame me, I'd like to add I've dated several attractive K-gals, I've found them all very dull as people, and I'd take an average Western girl any time over some wannabe K-princess. |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Kurtz wrote: |
Funny how just about every comment I've read here relates to looks.
Being a guy, I can sit back and laugh at the guys here gloating how beautiful their Korean girlfriend are. Guys are pretty damn shallow.
Have you ever noticed how much conversation goes on between W-boy/K-gal couples? not much from what I've seen. Some can't even communicate at all, it's quite amusing, which I think goes to show many guys are just wanting a pretty Asian girl to show off.
Guys strut around with their princess like they're holding a Gucci handbag, showing off their "prize" while the girls are beaming with delight that they're so cool and international. I think they deserve each other.
Whenever there is a thread is about this topic, it always goes on for pages and pages as it attracts insecure and average looking guys trying to justify their shallowness.
Maybe some couples have a "connection" but I think in most cases it's just a little ego boosting, "look at me! my girlfriend is pretty!" but take a look around, seeing some of the quality of the guys here and the beauty of the women they are with just goes to show many K-gals aren't too picky at all.
Before you flame me, I'd like to add I've dated several attractive K-gals, I've found them all very dull as people, and I'd take an average Western girl any time over some wannabe K-princess. |
I envy those waygook guys with the pretty k-girls that can't communicate. Thats heaven right there. My wife won't shut the hell up most of the time. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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You've got to be kidding me, right? You can tell if someone is or isn't a korean-american "on accent alone"? You ESL teachers still amaze me. |
Check in the mirror and see if you like what you see. You might be surprised. |
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Freddypops
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Frankly Mr Shankly wrote: |
| Misuda exists so Korean blokes can all have a collective stiffie and believe that they are desirable to foreign women (well aside from Vietnamese peasants with mud between their toes and ringworm). Congrats, girls, but don't come running back when Pom-suk knocks the living [MOD EDIT] out of you for not cooking kimchijiggae like his mom did. |
Now this is hate speech by any definition, saying that Korean men "knock" out their women. Obviously FMS has some serious hatred issues with Korean men.
I would not report this though because this is not only par for course on this site but also I believe in free speech. But if I wrote something like this about white guys I'd probably get deleted by the mods. I guess I'm a westerner but I'm not one of those "special" westerners.  |
"White"? I think you mean "non-Korean". And yeah, FMS's post is verging on hate speech... but it's also very funny. |
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Xerapis
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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chemicalblur wrote:
You've got to be kidding me, right? You can tell if someone is or isn't a korean-american "on accent alone"? You ESL teachers still amaze me. |
I can't say absolutely if they're Korean-Other, but I can tell after about 15 minutes of conversation if they've studied/lived overseas or not. Not just accent, but expression choices.
Why so dubious? My speech teacher in college could tell what region and sometimes what state each student was from. Except me, cause I'm a military brat and actually lived west coast, east coast and flyover country.
If you've been a teacher for more than a couple months, you should start to be able to pick up on the differences. Establish a baseline, notice deviations, ask questions. If you can't start learning WHY they speak the way they do, how can you help them improve? |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Funny how just about every comment I've read here relates to looks.
Before you flame me, I'd like to add I've dated several attractive K-gals, I've found them all very dull as people, and I'd take an average Western girl any time over some wannabe K-princess. |
Well over the course of my life I've dated lots of western women as well and found most of them to be equally as dull, not to mention self absorbed, bitchy, etc.........
I guess between a cute dull woman and an ugly one I'd have to go with the cute one as she's at least got something to offfer. Oh I'm sooooo shallow. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| How many Misuda girls have worked as bargirls and / or prostitutes? Was the number of paying tall western males too low for their liking? |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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What's the difference between them saying the average Western guy is someone Western girls wouldn't look twice at back home and you saying the average Western female can't compete with Korean women? Or that they look like homeless refugees? Or that they have crappy attitudes?
Does that mean, then, that you are jealous of Western women in Korea? Because you just did the exact same thing.
By the way, despite what some Western men like to tell each other over and over again, almost every Western woman I know in Korea is interested in Korean men.... |
1. I didn't do it in a national forum
2. I didn't claim they came here just to sleep with korean men
I said they are jealous because they are commenting on western men's dating habits in a negative manner. Otherwise they wouldn't care, especially not care enough to broadcast the comments nationally.
I simply pointed out 2 likely reasons for their jealously. They're either jealous of their happiness, or they want to date them and feel like they can't compete. You'd have to been an idiot to think the average western girl remotely tries to compete with korean girls. I've seen so many girls in various train stations and maybe 1 out of 1000 put any effort into their appearance. Its anecdotal evidence buts its pretty easy for you to check by yourself. If it wasn't true, I would expect to see at least some mix over time, but it hasn't presented itself yet. |
1. So it's only jealousy if it happens in a national forum?
2. No, you didn't. In fact, if I follow my hunches, it might just be extremely difficult for you to even acknowledge the possibility.
Was anecdotal evidence not what the lasses on the show were giving as well?
Sorry. What was your point again? Western women are fat and opinionated? Mods, can we just make it a sticky and get it over with? |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
What's the difference between them saying the average Western guy is someone Western girls wouldn't look twice at back home and you saying the average Western female can't compete with Korean women? Or that they look like homeless refugees? Or that they have crappy attitudes?
Does that mean, then, that you are jealous of Western women in Korea? Because you just did the exact same thing.
By the way, despite what some Western men like to tell each other over and over again, almost every Western woman I know in Korea is interested in Korean men.... |
1. I didn't do it in a national forum
2. I didn't claim they came here just to sleep with korean men
I said they are jealous because they are commenting on western men's dating habits in a negative manner. Otherwise they wouldn't care, especially not care enough to broadcast the comments nationally.
I simply pointed out 2 likely reasons for their jealously. They're either jealous of their happiness, or they want to date them and feel like they can't compete. You'd have to been an idiot to think the average western girl remotely tries to compete with korean girls. I've seen so many girls in various train stations and maybe 1 out of 1000 put any effort into their appearance. Its anecdotal evidence buts its pretty easy for you to check by yourself. If it wasn't true, I would expect to see at least some mix over time, but it hasn't presented itself yet. |
1. So it's only jealousy if it happens in a national forum?
2. No, you didn't. In fact, if I follow my hunches, it might just be extremely difficult for you to even acknowledge the possibility.
Was anecdotal evidence not what the lasses on the show were giving as well?
Sorry. What was your point again? Western women are fat and opinionated? Mods, can we just make it a sticky and get it over with? |
1. There is a time and a place for everything. That time and that place point to a certain feeling.
2. I'm more than happy to acknowledge it, I gave two reasons why they might say that. jealousy because they want to date them or jealousy because someone else is happy and they're not.
My point was they are jealous about something. What's yours? |
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foucault
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Their take on the situation is pretty insulting to Korean women, as if they're too stupid to know what they're getting into. |
Yes, The arrow aimed at western men by those girls has come around and attacked korean women that are dating with western men. That's what I'm worried about. What a vicious circle. |
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jamesteacho
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Location: Non of your business/somewhere in shibuya Japan
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| good God you guys are funny. way to go guys keep it up! |
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toadhjo
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: |
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So, who wants to take bets on how long I'll be in Korea before I get my own Korean vixen?
Eh! Eh! Any takers?  |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Funny how just about every comment I've read here relates to looks.
Being a guy, I can sit back and laugh at the guys here gloating how beautiful their Korean girlfriend are. Guys are pretty damn shallow.
Have you ever noticed how much conversation goes on between W-boy/K-gal couples? not much from what I've seen. Some can't even communicate at all, it's quite amusing, which I think goes to show many guys are just wanting a pretty Asian girl to show off.
Guys strut around with their princess like they're holding a Gucci handbag, showing off their "prize" while the girls are beaming with delight that they're so cool and international. I think they deserve each other.
Whenever there is a thread is about this topic, it always goes on for pages and pages as it attracts insecure and average looking guys trying to justify their shallowness.
Maybe some couples have a "connection" but I think in most cases it's just a little ego boosting, "look at me! my girlfriend is pretty!" but take a look around, seeing some of the quality of the guys here and the beauty of the women they are with just goes to show many K-gals aren't too picky at all.
Before you flame me, I'd like to add I've dated several attractive K-gals, I've found them all very dull as people, and I'd take an average Western girl any time over some wannabe K-princess. |
Well, first of all, most guys all over the world want someone they consider good-looking. They are not concerned about her being able to have deep conversations with him anymore than most women except that. That's normal for most people. I prefer someone to speak my language in a decent manner.
You are overlooking the fact that many people who have Korean girlfriends speak some Korean, many of them have average looking Korean girls. It's a myth that they all have gorgeous Korean girlfriends.
They are normal looking guys with normal looking Korean girls. They just happen in many cases prefer to date Korean women. I am referring to those who have long-term relationships with Korean women.
There is a tendency for some Western women to attack Western men in Korea and for Western men to do the same. I don't really want to get into that. I've never dated a Korean woman, and I didn't really intend before coming here. Many of them are very nice and beautiful.
As far as that show, they are repeating the stereotype that the male teachers came here for the women, which is generally not true.
Men generally don't care what kind of women out there. I haven't met many guys who came to Korea specifically for the women, and if a woman has an average looking guy for a boyfriend who cares?
Does it really matter?
Also, I find that show to be in bad taste. It seems to parade Western women for Korean males. Of course, we have plenty of shows in bad taste in the West, but it reminds of say having a show filled with women from Japan, the Phillipines, China, and Vietnam talking about how great American culture is and being there on TV for eye candy for American males. I just can't watch such a show. Sure, there are pretty women on the show. It just makes me think of sexism and closed-mindedness.
The good point to it is it shows Westerners speaking Korean. That's one good side to it. |
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Forward Observer

Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Location: FOB Gloria
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| toadhjo wrote: |
So, who wants to take bets on how long I'll be in Korea before I get my own Korean vixen?
Eh! Eh! Any takers?  |
In order to properly to take on a wager like this, we'll need the following intel:
Your age
Your Height & weight
Which location in Korea will you be in? |
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