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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Sody
Joined: 14 May 2006
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 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Is this guy a liar? |
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Hi, I'm planning on goin to korea soon too.
But from the looks of it, everyone seems to be sayin talk to more than one recruiter.
But on another recruiter's website. they said,
"Do not send out an application to every employer and recruiter who advertises on the internet. Often enough, recruiters flog your resume to every language school in Korea. Although the English education industry seems huge in Korea, many paths can lead to the same job. If a language school has received three or four copies of your resume from different recruiters, they will view pursuing your application as a waste of their time, and recruiters you've been in contact may lose interest in helping you as well."
Is this true?
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Only true that the recruiter will have to stand in line to get paid or may not get paid if someone else sent your resume first or if you found a better job with another recruiter.
The schools don't care. Most of the language schools are barely one step above the sleazy recruiters.
They just want you.
17,000 applicants last year (number of visas issued).
25,000 job openings.
You do the math.
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I'm sure the recruiter who posted that information was most likely trying to convince applicants from dealing with other recruiters. It's exactly like ttom said, take your time and find a good job. It takes time to find a good job, it's a process that simply can't be rushed if you want to do it right.
It is true though that recruiters do send off many resumes to schools without the knowledge of the applicant.
It is also true that recruiters won't bother with teachers or applicants who they feel they cannot place. If they don't think you will accept a job or if they feel they simply can't place you easily, they will focus their attention elsewhere. It's all about profits and finding warm bodies to fill the positions. Don't think for a minute they are overly concerned with finding qualified and good people.
In most countries, including America and Canada, it is considered rude not to respond when someone emails you. Not in Korea. Certainly not with these recruiters. Don't be surprised and frustrated if they don't email you back promptly or respond to your questions.
The best way to treat the whole application process with Korean recruiters is to think of it as a game. Don't lose your cool, take your time, consider your options.
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SpedEd
Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Location: ROK
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I just want to say this about recruiters: Try your best not to accept a job from one of them. It may be quite helpful to get some advice and tips from recruiters as many of them know the industry and visa regs well but one must remember that they work for themselves first, the school second, and the teacher a very, very, distant third (if at all).
A good recruiter is an oxymoron. |
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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Rowan at EslPlanet.com has treated me really well.
He helped me get all the documents together and told me what was missing.
Gave me all the information about how to adapt to Korean culture.
He even met up with some of us to have drinks (I missed out becuase I had a hangover from the previous day)
He's good, professional, and he is always sending us emails and updates. He's a good guy and from what I heard from other people he is extremely helpful.
I just finished the EPIK orientation and I'm really glad he's helped me. |
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VFRinterceptor
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: RBI Korea |
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When I told Kelly at RBI that I wanted to review the contract or talk with any current teacher at a school that was interested in me BEFORE giving them my references, that was essentially the last I heard from her.
I tried to call her but was told that "she was busy" and that "she would call me back"-psh...
Recruiters like these are looking for the quick buck with as little effort as possible.
I would be interested in hearing from someone that found a school through her.
email: [email protected] |
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okayden223
Joined: 05 Jun 2009
Location: Incheon
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| Yes I encountered something similar with an agency. The woman told me about a school and I said "yes that sounds great...can you give me the email address of a current foreign teacher." She told me I'd have to send my documents first. I told her I really would need to contact a teacher there first. She said she'd get back to me and I never heard from her again. |
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okayden223
Joined: 05 Jun 2009
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| I've used ASKNow.ca personally and work with some people who used ESL411.com with no complaints. I'd start there and see what they can offer you. |
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orangepostit
Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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Thusfar I've never seen a negative experience with Thinkoutside, which is why I felt the need to share.
They did come through for me in the end, but there was so much stress along the way. Mainly they failed to communicate important pieces of information and I was in a time crunch.
Minji and Sunny are great, I will say that much. However most of my communication was done with a foreigner working in Toronto (I applied Spring 2008). I'm sorry that's so vague, but I honestly don't remember his name.
He was a good guy, very adept at making people feel comfortable. He did the initial interview with me, assured that everything would work out.
If I hadn't doggedly pursued everything it wouldn't have!
A friend of mine was working with him and wanted a 9-5 hogwan job in Seoul. He passed off the job of finding work for her, to someone working for ThinkOutside in Korea (supposedly). When she called to confirm how the job hunt was going, he found out that they'd never recieved his request. That was weeks after...
I have met one other person in Korea who wasn't pleased with this particular recruiter wondering, "what is his job anyways?"
So I have mixed feelings because yes I got a job (and in my second choice EPIK Daegu), but of the three - blood, sweat and tears - there was only one I didn't shed to get this job.
On a more positive note, I've never used Korvia to get a job, but I have to reinterate the comment that Joyce seems very professonal. |
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beatbox_bandit
Joined: 27 May 2009
Location: Washington State
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Does anyone know about the agency "English Network?"
http://www.enw-asia.com/ |
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ilovespaghetti
Joined: 01 Jul 2009
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Mary N James Recruiters:
Evil, Mean, Lie, Don't Care About Anyone But Themselves.
Will Screw You Royally. Bait and Switchers. Liars. No Conscience. |
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hang10
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Asia, Twice the sex half the foreplay
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Good Recruiters???? |
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I have heard good things about Footprints and am currently using their services..... Are they an ideal recruiter? They "supposedly" only place teachers in well-reputable schools....
But if that were the case than why do some of the contracts seem to offer less than what I've seen posted ???
It would be so nice just to find a middle man that is trust worthy: Any advise?
PS--thanks to all you helpful, kind people out there~it is kind of mind blowing to see you guys so willing to help without any kind of incentive besides general "goodness"  |
I hate to break you bad news.
THERE ISNT ANY. Your a dollor sign get used to it. Recruiters may seem nice but they have heaps of jobs going and heaps of teachers they just want the teachers with all the docs in place.
Once your in that job your history. The school will take over and if your in a bad one then kiss ur a** good bye.
Happy days. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Serena at Korvia got me the job & pay in the area I wanted.
Which is more than I could say for ThinkOutside, eslplanet (who never got back to me) and some guy named Testimony (Gyeonggi English Program in Korea ! !) who couldn't find work although he promised to have 'found' a school that 'may' hire me, but he couldn't get an answer despite all the 'bribing' he did for the principal |
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Karea
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
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After reading through this thread, alarm bells are ringing.
One of the recruiters I'm currently dealing with seems to be semi-obsessed with the current situation/position of my needed visa documentation.
When I suggested that in the mean-time it was better to apply for the jobs first and see if I am definitely offered a position, I wasn't met with a direct answer/response.
Should I run a mile. Or is this the usual behaviour? |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| I'm looking for another job in Busan after a year here and not looking forward to dealing with a recruiter. Short of crusing the job listings on here anyone know another, better, way finding a job with a school directly? |
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Totti
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:04 am Post subject: |
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www.pusanweb.com
post your resume on there and you should get a few offers from schools directly. |
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