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EPIK school security deposit (900k)
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martinpil



Joined: 03 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: EPIK school security deposit (900k) Reply with quote

Does the 900k won security deposit you are required to pay come out of your first month's salary or do you actually need to pay it upfront from your own savings?
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toadhjo



Joined: 07 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see this in my contract...maybe mine doesn't have it?

What article/section number is it?
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Tux



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Location: The smallest one room ever in Guri City

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: EPIK school security deposit (900k) Reply with quote

martinpil wrote:
Does the 900k won security deposit you are required to pay come out of your first month's salary or do you actually need to pay it upfront from your own savings?


GEPIK has a similar policy in regards to the security deposit. In my case, the 300k was taken out of my first three pay checks. I imagine EPIK would be the same: I seriously doubt you would have to front with 900k upon entering the country.

I remember that the security deposit agreement was separate from my contract and it explained how the deductions would be taken. Perhaps check for a similar document in your case.
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: EPIK school security deposit (900k) Reply with quote

Tux wrote:
martinpil wrote:
Does the 900k won security deposit you are required to pay come out of your first month's salary or do you actually need to pay it upfront from your own savings?


GEPIK has a similar policy in regards to the security deposit. In my case, the 300k was taken out of my first three pay checks. I imagine EPIK would be the same: I seriously doubt you would have to front with 900k upon entering the country.

I remember that the security deposit agreement was separate from my contract and it explained how the deductions would be taken. Perhaps check for a similar document in your case.


WTH?!? I have never heard of this security deposit and its nowhere in the 2009 EPIK contract. I've never paid a security deposit nor would I.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely in the contract. 300k for the first three months. Everyone I know with GEPIK has to pay the deposit.
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sugarkane59



Joined: 10 Jun 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paying a security deposit in order to rent a flat/house is standard in most countries. When people moan about it, it makes it obvious that they've not moved out of their ma or pa's house yet - or they are just really stingy! Landlords have a right to protect themselves too.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never put forth a deposit to work a job, ever. Why do you people do it? If someone told me "Yes, we'll get you this job if you pay this close to a grand deposit." I would say "What? A *deposit*...what? For what?

I have never in my career paid for:

Recruiting fees
Airfare
Apartment deposits
Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

What kind of scam are these people trying to pull on you!?
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugarkane59 wrote:
Paying a security deposit in order to rent a flat/house is standard in most countries. When people moan about it, it makes it obvious that they've not moved out of their ma or pa's house yet - or they are just really stingy! Landlords have a right to protect themselves too.

Which is why my employers pay that. Or I don't work for them.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugarkane59 wrote:
Paying a security deposit in order to rent a flat/house is standard in most countries. When people moan about it, it makes it obvious that they've not moved out of their ma or pa's house yet - or they are just really stingy! Landlords have a right to protect themselves too.


The school pays the rent in Korea. This is not standard procedure. If it were a hakwon, I wouldn't pay it. If it was GEPIK, it's part of the deal, but your money is safe. It is not part of the deal with EPIK. Landlords in Korea are well compensated by the MOE. There is no reason for the landlord to get a 'deposit".

Seriously, have you worked in Korea before or are you just a naive newbie?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing safe in Korea. If you quit, they'd probably try to keep it. I think I've even heard of EPIK or GEPIK or whatever the hell schools trying to keep it if you quit...
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martinpil



Joined: 03 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchieluver wrote:

The school pays the rent in Korea. This is not standard procedure. If it were a hakwon, I wouldn't pay it. If it was GEPIK, it's part of the deal, but your money is safe. It is not part of the deal with EPIK. Landlords in Korea are well compensated by the MOE. There is no reason for the landlord to get a 'deposit".

Seriously, have you worked in Korea before or are you just a naive newbie?


It is in application form for Korvia recruitment for a PS JEPIK.
It says to pay a security deposit of 900k to te skool. someone on ere says its standard for Jepik.
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's BS. Who wants this deposit, your K-recruiter I bet??? Go to EPIK's site yourself and view sample contracts. No such demand exists.

Also, why even use recruiters. Check out these sites and contact them yourself.
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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The security deposit is taken in case you run away or damage your apartment. It used to be called a housing deposit in the old days.

Deposits such as this have been common in Hagwons for many a year. ECC have always taken 600 000 won over 3 months.
Seoul public schools, SMOE, always takes a deposit and Gyeonggi Province, GEPIK always takes the 900 000 deposit over 3 months from your salary.

EPIK is not a unified government organization as such (it is a program!)
This means that the offices of education of individual cities and provinces employing the public school teachers can take a deposit if they so desire. you are employed by the individual office NOT by EPIK

Busan city were taking a 500 000 deposit a short time ago for public school teachers.

Nothing is written on the EPIK website as this is just a recruitment site for most of the provinces and cities. Some provinces such as Jeollam - JEPIK are doing their own recruiting direct, not through the EPIK organization in Seoul. In this respect as long as you sign you accept the deposit for going there, it is a legal contract.

Remember if you dont leave early or damage your apartment, you get the deposit back at the end of 12 months.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should receive your deposit back in any circumstance keeping in mind you don't leave any unpaid bills or damage anything in the Apartment. According to the contract it doesn't have anything to do with your flights. Yet seeing as you're liable to pay for the flights if you quit before six months it might as well be.

Under the GEPIK contract.
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smajk710



Joined: 23 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I�ve been reading this post for some years and I always read about people complaining about something. I've had some bad experiences and some good experiences, but I've never complained nor badmouth anyone. This is my 4th year and 3rd contract. The deposit is for the apartment. It will be returned at the end of your contract and if your lucky they will return 600,000 won at the 6 month mark, the rest at the end of your contract. If you take care of the apartment you will get your money back. If you live in the U.S. and rent, you�ll need to give at least 2 months security deposit. So stop complaining.
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