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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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 Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: Groundhog Day |
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Being in Korea can feel like being in the small town that Bill Murray is stuck in. Maybe this is a good movie to watch if life seams a little difficult in Korea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MoOvPIuKAY |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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I love this movie.
Frankly I'd love to live everyday again and again.
Because so much happens around you in one day and you have no idea.
Also it'd be great to know how one small action could ripple into so much more. We don't have the pleasure of doing that in our everyday life.
Although, it might get old fast... But it definately have major perks.
I'd probably try a series of buglaries and heists just to try different clever and innovative ways. I've always wanted to stage a robbery on high profile areas to test their security system and my ingenuity to get around it. The challenge! Frankly, I think banks would be easy as hell to rob.
It'd be great to see what other people would do. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Goku wrote: |
| I'd probably try a series of buglaries and heists just to try different clever and innovative ways. I've always wanted to stage a robbery on high profile areas to test their security system and my ingenuity to get around it. The challenge! Frankly, I think banks would be easy as hell to rob. |
Definitely easy, if you screw up there are no consequences and the circumstances are exactly the same every time you try. If you really practiced you could be like that guy in Kim Ki Deok's 빈집 and walk in and out with the money completely unseen. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Nietzsche: "How well disposed do you have to be toward yourself to wish for the eternal recurrence of your life lived to date, over and over, the same each time, for eternity?"
The philosopher wanted to do away with the notion of life having a goal or end or purpose per se, and yet wanted to avoid the contentment of those who simply live in the moment like satiated cows. Further, he wanted to get rid of free will and yet save the idea of self-identity and self-development, but not as necessary but simply as healthy, as an experiment; the point wasn't self-preservation but rather to get over oneself, to use oneself up in the process of living for a future that is neither necessary nor intended.
Groundhog Day is often considered a Nietzschean idea, and at a superficial level it is, though in the film the day is not lived over and over exactly the same as the character has "free will" to change his own behaviour even though everyone else goes on exactly as before, and in fact he re-lives the day in countless DIFFERENT ways and learns from his re-enactments new things, changing as a person. And for the philosopher it isn't an ontological condition, but instead a thought experiment, a test of one's disposition toward oneself.
Anyways,... great film simply because it's Bill Murray! though I prefer him in Scrooged ("Is that a shotgun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?  ), now there's another story about living a day twice, albeit in dream sequence. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Dude, it was just a movie. Stop thinking so much |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| Dude, it was just a movie. Stop thinking so much |
dang i try to leave those years as a M.A. student in Philosophy behind me, but when I go to discussion boards populated by university graduates I sometimes forget how "Dude" one is supposed to be online
me bad |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| Dude, it was just a movie. Stop thinking so much |
Just a movie? Just a movie? It is a work of art. Best line: "I am a celebrity with an emergency" after asking if they had an emergency line and stating that he was famous. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Ned? Ned Ryerson?! |
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typo
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| Dude, it was just a movie. Stop thinking so much |
Generally I'd take this as sarcasm, but given the locale of the comment, i'm gonna go with a groan instead.
"just a painting" "just a book" "just a ____" = i don't really think a whole lot about anything. |
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wampa33
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
Nietzsche: "How well disposed do you have to be toward yourself to wish for the eternal recurrence of your life lived to date, over and over, the same each time, for eternity?"
The philosopher wanted to do away with the notion of life having a goal or end or purpose per se, and yet wanted to avoid the contentment of those who simply live in the moment like satiated cows. Further, he wanted to get rid of free will and yet save the idea of self-identity and self-development, but not as necessary but simply as healthy, as an experiment; the point wasn't self-preservation but rather to get over oneself, to use oneself up in the process of living for a future that is neither necessary nor intended.
Groundhog Day is often considered a Nietzschean idea, and at a superficial level it is, though in the film the day is not lived over and over exactly the same as the character has "free will" to change his own behaviour even though everyone else goes on exactly as before, and in fact he re-lives the day in countless DIFFERENT ways and learns from his re-enactments new things, changing as a person. And for the philosopher it isn't an ontological condition, but instead a thought experiment, a test of one's disposition toward oneself.
Anyways,... great film simply because it's Bill Murray! though I prefer him in Scrooged ("Is that a shotgun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? ), now there's another story about living a day twice, albeit in dream sequence. |
With my Samsung students, I have being playing the Ground Hog day movie again and again for the past 3 years. Each time I'm opening a new book, discovering another quirky observation related to morality, identity, and some other philosophical question. Always the Heraclitus experience!
I've considered the movie having Platonic basis with pseudo Freudian-Hegelian dialectic as a narrative device. I took the basic moral of the movie to be what Nietzsche said in the twilight of Idols maxim "principle of brotherly love: Help yourself and others will help you." |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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"We can't get the antlers to stick on the mice."
"Have you tried staples?"
I love Scrooged. |
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the boy next door
Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: next door
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Ground Hog Day changed my life forever! 
i swear to gawd it did. at the exact same time i saw it, i was in a relationship with a woman who was so predictable and routine that i felt as if i was living the exact same day over and over with her sexy ass every day!
we broke up after i realized that i was actually in love with her twin sister and not her... |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| did you get the twin. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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