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Otus



Joined: 09 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: God bless U Richard Nixon Reply with quote

It was never about the economy - stupid! - It was just about going in there and meeting them on their level. and doing the right thing at the time - locked and loaded -

And also - had you not been forced 2 resign I also believe the North would have never over run the South in that conflict
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm...context?

EDIT: Are you saying in the first paragraph that Watergate was justified, because the Democrats were doing bad things too?

And in the second, I'm guessing you mean that, had Nixon not resigned, the pro-western forces would have won in Vietnam.
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Otus



Joined: 09 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also - Gopher - u only fail 2 rate him one of the best - because in your intellectual maze - u lack a pair of ...
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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the best? Nixon? Really? WTF?

However, opinions notwithstanding, realpolitik and China? at least irt N. Vietnam.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And also - had you not been forced 2 resign I also believe the North would have never over run the South in that conflict

Win what? What the heck difference did it make? Is Vietnam now some crazy communist enemy of the World? No eh. It turns out that there really was no threat in the first place. Nixon was just a f%^$%$ crazy warmonger.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am mentioned in this bizarre thread, so I shall respond.

I do not rate R. Nixon either among the best or the worst American presidents. Like everyone else, we can cite pros and cons. I do note that he resigned after exacerbating an already deeply-divided, polarized country.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's talking about the Civil War.

I really do. Laughing
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ManintheMiddle



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of foreign policy, Nixon was a master strategist, even in regards to much of what transpired in Vietnam after 1968. I am referring to the effort to Vietnamize the war in the South and the Paris peace talks. Of course, Kissinger helped matters along but Nixon had the good sense to appoint him in the first place. Melvin Laird, the Defense Secretary was underrated and had a good deal more common sense than McNamara.

As for domestic policy, many progressive programs were initiated under Nixon including environmental policy at a national level.

His doing in was Watergate, which was tragic because he didn't need the plumbers to win the election against McGovern.

Spiro Agnew was a poor choice as VP and antagonized the center and left in American politics. And while Nixon acquired a siege mentality, he could hardly be blamed for it given the relentless assault of the media on him (which began well before Watergate, I would point out).

One can draw more than a few analogies between Nixon and Agnew but the former was actually a much more moderate conservative with no illusions about winning in Vietnam, despite the legacy painted for him by the press.

And unlike JFK, he was a good and decent family man.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManintheMiddle wrote:
As for domestic policy, many progressive programs were initiated under Nixon including environmental policy at a national level.


In this respect, R. Nixon was far more liberal than W. Clinton or B. Obama...
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
ManintheMiddle wrote:
As for domestic policy, many progressive programs were initiated under Nixon including environmental policy at a national level.


In this respect, R. Nixon was far more liberal than W. Clinton or B. Obama...

Exactly. How anyone could call the latter two "left" or "liberal" is beyond me (and some on here love to throw around those L-words).
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ManintheMiddle



Joined: 20 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper booed:

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Exactly. How anyone could call the latter two "left" or "liberal" is beyond me (and some on here love to throw around those L-words).


You're so cute. Can I pinch that big honker of yours?
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManintheMiddle wrote:
bacasper booed:

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Exactly. How anyone could call the latter two "left" or "liberal" is beyond me (and some on here love to throw around those L-words).


You're so cute. Can I pinch that big honker of yours?

Surprised Idea I suppose it is only fair considering the nerve I hit.
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Otus



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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