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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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		| rationality 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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		| Elvis Gratton 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| You're making it way too complicated. Short answer: they like you ... you get more time off. They're jerks ... you get as little vacation as stated in the contract. Since they clearly don't like you, why not move on? |  | 
	
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		| rationality 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: |   |  
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		| I'm no Picasso 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | rationality wrote: |  
	  | Just curious though, why is it so difficult for people to realize that this EPIK contract states that a teacher has one week vacation, which means during the month that it is taken, the teacher is only required to teach 3 x 22 teaching hours for that month and not the full 88 hours taught during normal working hours, since the fourth week is for a paid vacation? 
 Why is it difficult for some here to fathom that it is bogus and irresponsible for a co-teacher to try and force the native teacher to make up for the other 20 hours due to the teacher taking his contractual paid vacation? If the teacher is forced to work an additional 20 hours, then that would violate the purpose of the contract of having 7 workdays of paid vacation.
 
 It does not say in the EPIK contract that it is required of teachers to make up the 22 contract hours outside of normal working conditions.
 
 In sum; a lot of you tell me to get the vacation time in writing and signed by the principal. What for? The contract says I get 7 working days. My contention is not about when; it�s about having to make up the 20 hours, because of a co-teacher's gun ho attitude or just from ignorance. So the issue here for me is not about having a signature for my vacation plan. So the, �Oh, gee whiz! If you don�t have anything in writing, then you are wrong.�
 
 However, most of the people that have applied to this thread have shown me incredible ignorance about the EPIK contract. Most of you have chosen to show me how disrespectful and ignorant you are instead of trying to figure out exactly my situation, and would rather engage in a nice game of flaming. Such low class idiots on this board.
 
 The only advice I have taken from this board is to control my temper for good cause, but none of you defended the contract; except to twist it and use it against me.
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 Your school's summer vacation, by all accounts here, is five weeks, though -- not one month. You're missing out a week in your calculations, which means your 80 hour requirement comes in just over what it should, including your seven days paid with no work whatsoever.
 
 Five weeks of summer minus one week and two days paid vacation equals three weeks and three days of work. No one's asking you to "make up" anything -- just work all of your contractually required time. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
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		| rationality 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | I'm no Picasso wrote: |  
	  | Five weeks of summer minus one week and two days paid vacation equals three weeks and three days of work. No one's asking you to "make up" anything -- just work all of your contractually required time. Why is that so hard for you to understand? |  
 Miss ADD: Please read my original post.
 
   "She said the other two schools� native teachers are doing eight hour camps for two weeks, but what they didn�t tell her is that the teachers will be compensated overtime pay for the 18 hours over their contractual 22 hours. Nevertheless, she expects me to report in during my vacation and work the extra 20 hrs, so she can meet supposedly the BOE�s hour quota."
 
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		| rationality 
 
 
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		| son of coco 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | son of coco wrote: |  
	  | Then I take 5 days of my holidays. That's followed by another two weeks of conversation (or concentration) camp. Bring on a trip home in November followed by a search for a school with holidays.
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 Why do you have only 5 days vacation? My stupid contract says "7 work days" and from what I hear from a lot of people that this is the lowest or least amount given in an EPIK contract.
 
 Another thing is that since these schools are not for profit, then what is the incentive to keep teachers in school seat warming when they finish their contractual 22 hour of teaching? I mean, Ya, I can do lesson planning from home, so what?[/quote
 
 Yeah I get 7 too, 9 this summer with the extra two I get for teaching an extra 2 weeks of 6 hours a day.
 
 My mate is in a really good school here in the city I teach in. Gets to go home when he isn't teaching and has all the holidays off apart from summer camp...bastard!
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