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Quick Question on the Japanese Rail Pass
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daniel-andersson



Joined: 13 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul (but from Sweden)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Japan 2 weeks ago and passsed by Fuji 3 times... Non of the times I could even see the top and what I heard climbing it should be like standing in a queue for 3-4 hours...

As for Osaka city, the pass is valid for the Osaka loopline which goes around the city at many different stops.

I had 9 dys in Japan and went to Sapporo, Toya, Nikko, Tokyo, Fuju, Kyoto, Osaka, Hiroshima and Shiminoski with the pass. You can easy calculate if its worth the money from the link I wrote earlier. The pass price depends how many days you want it to be valid for... (Note thats its also valid to the airports). The bullet trains are also perfect place to eat a cheap lunch Smile
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farrepatt



Joined: 27 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the Fuji information isn't quite right.

Shin Fuji is close to Mt. Fuji, but you'd be better off going to Odawara. From there you can take a train into Hakone. The one problem with this train is I'm pretty sure it's not a JR trains so it isn't covered with the JR pass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odakyu_Electric_Railway

Hakone is the park around Fuji. If you're lucky you'll get some great views of Fuji. I've been a couple of times. Once it was incredible and I got some fantastic photos. The other time it was cloudy and I didn't see Fuji at all. From my understanding it's usually pretty cloudy in the summer and clear in the winter around Fuji. So it may not be worth it. You can get a Hakone pass for 2 or 3 days I think. It lets you ride the train, boat and cable car:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Hakone

As for climbing Mt. Fuji. I've done it twice. The first time I didn't plan too much and it was a miserable experience. But still worth it in my mind. I'm not a climber, but when I got to the top I really felt like I'd accomplished something. The 2nd time I did it was last summer. I planned it much better and the weather was great. I enjoyed it much more. Still tiring for a lazy guy like me, but pretty cool. It was clear so I could look down the crater at the top and I had a great view from the summit.

There are a few places that run buses to the 5th station where most people start their climb. Though there are multiple 5th stations as I believe there are 4 or 5 routes up. You need to make sure you come back down on the same side otherwise you could find yourself in some trouble. If you have more questions about feel free to send me a message.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, the Fuji information isn't quite right.

Shin Fuji is close to Mt. Fuji, but you'd be better off going to Odawara


How wasn't it right? I was actually advising NOT to detrain at Shin Fuji, as I did in 2006, but to head to either Hakone or Fuji Go Ko instead. I ended up having lunch at Shin Fuji & waiting 2 hours for the bus to Kawaguchiko, & Fuji Yoshida. I then got a private train line to Otsuki, & on to Tokyo & Kamakura, using my JRP from Otsuki:

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6905.html

Odawara is another choice not mentioned in Lonely Planet, so thanks for posting.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6900.html
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dzkouns



Joined: 29 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumpcard wrote:
I'm off to Osaka for 7 days. Never used a JR Pass before. Wasn't really planning on travelling elsewhere other than perhaps to Kobe or Kyoto. However if I did venture out it would be to limb Fuji once and for all. JRPass still a good deal then? Can it be used on the subway system in Osaka? How much is it?



That sounds about like the itinerary I'm following in August. I'm definitely heading to Mt. Fuji, but I'm also struggling with whether or not to buy the JR Pass. Anybody have some advice?
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farrepatt



Joined: 27 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Chris_J2. I obviously didn't read your post properly. I had thought you said to get off at Shin Fuji. I almost made that mistake once myself.

If you get off at Odawara, there's a nice Japanese castle about a 10 minute walk from the station. It's nothing spectacular if you've been to Himeji or Matsumoto, but it's not bad.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: JRP Reply with quote

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It is way cheaper to buy a JR pass than pay for Shinkansen in Japan; a return trip Tokyo to Hiroshima and back would cost a Japanese more than the entire rail pass cost me.


http://volokh.com/posts/1248120075.shtml

Lonely Planet endorses the above, & states something along the lines that the 7 day JRP will pay for itself, with a return trip from Kyoto to Tokyo. Note the JRP excludes the super express 'Nozomi' series trains.
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trigger123



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

planning on a trip out to japan very soon, early august in fact.
looking for some advice about getting there from korea though.
i plan to go to tokyo for a few days, take a couple of day trips out of the city too. how would the beetle ferry-train option compare to flying? they appear to be roughly the same in price, with the former taking longer.
i imagine the japan rail pass wouldn't be that economical, considering the only 'big' rail journey i plan to make is from fukuoka to tokyo, or would it?
i also looked into this korea/japan discount pass that includes some rail travel in korea; does anyone have any experience of using this pass?
thanks in advance for any advice
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Japan Reply with quote

I went from Busan to Fukuoka by Beetle (3 hours), then Nagasaki > Fukuoka > Hiroshima > Kyoto > Fuji Go Ko > Kamakura > Tokyo > Miyajima > Fukuoka > Busan, on a 7 day pass. I missed Nikko outside Tokyo, & Nara outside Kyoto. Maybe next time.

I also went in August. It was very hot & humid. With the exception of Hiroshima, all the cities I went to, had drink vending machines on every street corner. Chilled Pokhari Sweat, cola, etc. Overnight accomodation throughout Japan was expensive, ranging from 3,500 yen at 3 sisters hostel in Kyoto, to 7,000 yen, in the chain hotels. Cost of living is roughly double that in Korea.

http://www.treklens.com/members/chrisJ/photos/Asia/Japan/

http://beta.trekearth.com/members/ChrisJ/photos/Asia/Japan/
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cangel



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now, JR has a 2 day kippu pass (free travel) for just Y12,000. This is good for all shinkansen (bullet) trains in Japan. The only problem is that the days are consecutive.
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timeo



Joined: 19 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, the 7 day consecutive pass is 28,300 yen, so think carefully whether you wouldn't mind paying slightly more than double for 3.5 times the benefit. Just got back from Japan a few days ago and it's scorching there. I walked outside around noon yesterday in Seoul and thought that the weather was positively cool in comparison.
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travel zen



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Korail website has a discount package which includes the KTX to Busan, the Beetle Ferry to Hakata, & a 7 day JR pass. I'm not sure if the 14 day pass is on discount offer. There are dozens of travel agents in Korea that will sell the JR pass, or any JAL office.




In 2 weeks, I'm going to Mongolia, but I want to see Korea and Japan. This sounds like what I need to do that, but the website is hard to understand.

Do you actually get the JR pass, along with the ferry ride and the bus to Busan? I read that you get a one way trip to one destination only of your choice. A JR pass would have been a great deal along with the rest.

http://info.korail.com/2007/eng/etr/etr01000/w_etr01100.jsp
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