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I NEED SOME ADVIDE ON HOW TO DO A HANDSTAND...
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: I NEED SOME ADVIDE ON HOW TO DO A HANDSTAND... Reply with quote

I'm currently working out at home doing ab work, feet elevated push ups (varied widths) and chair push ups (the charles Atlas style ones) and then a pull up session and hill walking on alternate days.

I want to start doing handstand push ups like these -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTyT8y57ef0

But the crazy thing is, I can't manage to kick my feet up enough to make it so I'm upside down and feet are against the wall. I think it's a combination of fear of falling and not being able to kick or something, but it's very frustrating... I even read this tutorial

http://www.beastskills.com/Handstand.htm

but I still can't get up against the wall. My legs get up to about 90 degrees and then fall back down...

Any advice to help me anyone...?
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Triban



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.) Get Near a wall.

2.) Put your head and hands on the floor.

3.) Push your legs off the floor onto the wall.

4.) ???

5.) Profit.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
1.) Get Near a wall.

2.) Put your head and hands on the floor.

3.) Push your legs off the floor onto the wall.

4.) ???

5.) Profit.


I know that. But that's a headstand.

I'm trying to do a handstand and I can't get my bloody legs up to the wall
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Bloopity Bloop



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:


I know that. But that's a headstand.

I'm trying to do a handstand and I can't get my bloody legs up to the wall


Push up?

Isn't that where you want to be anyway?
Confused
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:


I know that. But that's a headstand.

I'm trying to do a handstand and I can't get my bloody legs up to the wall


Push up?

Isn't that where you want to be anyway?
Confused


Try looking at the links. It's done facing away from the wall. You can push up facing the wall, yes, but I think this makes you arch your upper back which is bad for the spine...
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Ruthdes



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you find a place where if you do fall, it won't be a big deal? If so, that might help you overcome any fear of falling. You just need a big, open wall somewhere.

Then, instead of starting with your hands on the floor as in the tutorial, take about 2 steps back for a semi-run up. Not much, just enough to build some momentum. Then aim carefully for that spot about 1 foot from the wall for your hands, and let your momentum kick you up.

Good luck.

*Disclaimer: I haven't done this for about 20 years, but it's what I used to do when I was a kid.
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blackjack



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do this in hapkido quite often. I find it easiest to start from a standing position with one leg in front of the other, back leg straight front leg bent slightly.

Learn forwards slightly (back inline with your back leg) and look down to where your hands will be on the floor. Raise your hands so they are in line with your back. In a fluid motion put you hands down on the ground flicking your back leg up and then flicking your front leg up. They should both lightly touch the wall at the same time, if they hit the wall you have used to much power. Keep your arms straight at all times

practice with a mattress on the ground first (or at least a yo). Better yet practice outside on the grass.

Hope this helps
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The Gipkik



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the best way to learn a handstand is to NOT use a wall. If you've got a gym membership (or get one for just a month), use a bunch of thick mats to keep you from hurting yourself. You need to learn how to do the forward roll and roll on one shoulder after you've gotten up on your hands (and fallen, which will happen). Practice over and over again. Here's a great site with tons and tons of advice. Scroll down to the Gymnastics category. Good luck!
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO NO NO. I learned this in Karate: Kind of squat then put your palms on the floor like you would getting ready for a handstand but put your knees slowly into the back of your elbows then pivot your head to the floor then raise legs up. I guess then if you are really tough you could push up with your arms, or use a wall for your legs' balance. But described is the initial way to get legs up there with grace and full control.
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The Gipkik



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
NO NO NO. I learned this in Karate: Kind of squat then put your palms on the floor like you would getting ready for a handstand but put your knees slowly into the back of your elbows then pivot your head to the floor then raise legs up. I guess then if you are really tough you could push up with your arms, or use a wall for your legs' balance. But described is the initial way to get legs up there with grace and full control.


This doesn't work for handstands--and handstand pushups, in particular. This martial arts technique is more about core control. If you know about handstand pushups, you know they are only the first step: then you move on to handstands with planches; then rings. The technique you discuss doesn't address falling, which is inevitable, and you can't do planches or anything else. And starting with your arms bent to a full handstand pushup is guaranteed to make you fall: it doesn't address balance and stability in the extended position.
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seonsengnimble



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruthdes wrote:
Can you find a place where if you do fall, it won't be a big deal? If so, that might help you overcome any fear of falling. You just need a big, open wall somewhere.

Then, instead of starting with your hands on the floor as in the tutorial, take about 2 steps back for a semi-run up. Not much, just enough to build some momentum. Then aim carefully for that spot about 1 foot from the wall for your hands, and let your momentum kick you up.

Good luck.



^This
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phoneboothface



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
1.) Get Near a wall.

2.) Put your head and hands on the floor.

3.) Push your legs off the floor onto the wall.

4.) ???

5.) Profit.


^This.

lol at the people taking this all serious and running at walls and *beep*. Not the most athletic bunch, are we?
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thanks so much for all the great help here...

Well after consideration and a few attempts I can do the handstand very easilly and SHOULD be able to push up into a handstand from there if I want to do handstand push ups...

Well I can't yet so there's no point trying...

So my plan for the next month is to keep up the push ups, feet on a chair and then elevated higher on my kitchen table, then feet elevated even higher up a wall untill I can do very decent numbers of reps with good form at that and then I'll go on to try the handstand push ups....

I was trying to run before I can walk methinks....
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Scamps



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should get someone to spot you. After you kick up to a handstand have someone hold you there, like grab onto your ankles to keep you from falling over and then you can attempt to do push-ups while keeping your balance until you get the hang of it all by yourself.
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roadwork



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As your legs are going up, make sure you are looking towards the wall, not down. It helps a lot with your balance.
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