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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Hard to have 'raging animosities' about .... Calculus. |
Actually, come to think of it, that's not true. Newton and Leibniz suddenly spring to mind. |
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megandadam
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Location: toronto, canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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i agree that there are some crazy feminists out there, but the same can be said for afro-american studies, and almost any where the analysis is about power and domination that continues to present day.
to call all the feminists of today as hysterical, or a screeching lot is misrepresentative and unfair.
i don't agree with a lot of what radical feminists have to say, but i identify more with them than with the so-called conservative feminists. i would agree that there is a current strand in feminist thought that hearkens back to the '60s that is particularly annoying...but it's just as annoying as blacks that still talk about slavery, jews that still talk about the holocaust... doesn't make it less true or accurate.
who can still deny that patriarchy, for instance, has not/is not an influential and generally accurate picture of society? (other than "conservative" and "republican" feminists and people like ann coulter? |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Depends on how you look at it, which issues you select, and which wrongs you think we ought to redress, Megandadam. I could just as easily ask you if you can honesty deny that matriarchy, for instance, has not/is not an influential and generally accurate picture of society? |
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aquaponics08

Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: What's up with the jews? |
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Why is every second thread in the CE about the jewish? Why are the jewish featured in every second programme on tv?
Forgive me, I am not from NA, had a quick look on wiki and they only make up about 2% of the population of america. So whats up? What's with the obsession with jews?
Coming from NZ I know almost nothing about this type of thing. Why does the media talk so much about them? why are there so many conspiracies? |
Guess which tribe controls the media? More than 55 million died in WWII, the holy number of 6 million (which is a great exaggeration!) are more important than the other 50 million or so. |
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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe it's because in universities they are making a proper attempt to look at the situation properly |
Or it could be because many academics look at every conflict through their narrow neo-Marxist, anti-Western, post-colonial, Saidist ideological prism. You also forgot to mention that many Middle Eastern studies departments are funded by Gulf Arab states. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:38 am Post subject: Re: What's up with the jews? |
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| Here's one explanation. There's a general and generally accurate impression that American politicians serve Zionist interests at the expense of purely American ones. This leads to a lot of speculation as to why, some of it good, some of it not so good. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What's up with the jews? |
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| Here's one explanation. There's a general and generally accurate impression that American politicians serve Zionist interests at the expense of purely American ones. This leads to a lot of speculation as to why, some of it good, some of it not so good. |
Isn't that what you call treason?
You know, like the false flag that was the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty of which President Johnson ordered not only rescue ships which had been dispatched to return before helping the beleaguered ship, growling, "I want that ship on the bottom of the sea!" but also the cover-up in the official investigation afterward? |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: Re: What's up with the jews? |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Koveras wrote: |
| Here's one explanation. There's a general and generally accurate impression that American politicians serve Zionist interests at the expense of purely American ones. This leads to a lot of speculation as to why, some of it good, some of it not so good. |
Isn't that what you call treason?
You know, like the false flag that was the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty of which President Johnson ordered not only rescue ships which had been dispatched to return before helping the beleaguered ship, growling, "I want that ship on the bottom of the sea!" but also the cover-up in the official investigation afterward? |
I agree with you. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Just out of curiousity, how many jews have you met in your life time?
For myself I can say that I have met less than the fingers on one hand people who have told me they are a jew.
I have also met many people who have told me that they are a muslim and later on that they hate Israel and want to see it destroyed.
I don't know how many Jews I have met who want to destroy the Arabs, but considering I only have 5 fingers, I guess it cant be too many.
Seriously, 1.5 billion muslims, 10 million Jews? Yeah, I can seriously view the Jews as a terrible force in the world
People wonder why I support Israel, I guess I am a sucker for the under dog, or maybe I just like stirring the kettle.
No, I don't have to agree with everything a country does, but I don't have to give up up them just because the rest of the world seems to have a problem with them.
I guess thats why I have always been pro USA, even if I don't agree with all thier actions.
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| I once asked a rabbi why the Jews seem to be persecuted whenever and wherever they have existed, for thousands of years. I explained that I am basically ignorant of the history but the Jewish people seem to have some really bad luck. He accused me of being anti-Semitic and refused to answer my question. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| So you never found out? Did you ask someone else who knew the answer? |
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| Nothing that holds water, so to speak. Seems the Jews are just very unlucky. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Well they were unlucky enough to be the scapegoat of a religion that went on to dominate the western world. I'd say that explains most of their bad luck. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Well they were unlucky enough to be the scapegoat of a religion that went on to dominate the western world. I'd say that explains most of their bad luck. |
...and ironically it's because some Jews claimed other Jews killed their Jewish leader |
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