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ironyj
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 Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: taekwondo class info needed |
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| does anyone know of a taekwondo studio in seoul that will accept foreign adult beginners? i would prefer not to go to itaewon. some place on the western side of the city would be ideal. thanks. |
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kinerry
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: taekwondo class info needed |
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| ironyj wrote: |
| does anyone know of a taekwondo studio in seoul that will accept foreign adult beginners? i would prefer not to go to itaewon. some place on the western side of the city would be ideal. thanks. |
save yourself some wasted time on this dance and learn a real martial art like jiu-jitsu or wresting |
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Kreation
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: taekwondo class info needed |
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| kinerry wrote: |
| ironyj wrote: |
| does anyone know of a taekwondo studio in seoul that will accept foreign adult beginners? i would prefer not to go to itaewon. some place on the western side of the city would be ideal. thanks. |
save yourself some wasted time on this dance and learn a real martial art like jiu-jitsu or wresting |
If I had a choice between doing cool looking kicks and hugging men on the floor, i'd choose cool looking kicks. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: taekwondo class info needed |
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| Kreation wrote: |
| kinerry wrote: |
| ironyj wrote: |
| does anyone know of a taekwondo studio in seoul that will accept foreign adult beginners? i would prefer not to go to itaewon. some place on the western side of the city would be ideal. thanks. |
save yourself some wasted time on this dance and learn a real martial art like jiu-jitsu or wresting |
If I had a choice between doing cool looking kicks and hugging men on the floor, i'd choose cool looking kicks. |
If you want to look pretty and be of no use, go for it.
Those fancy punches and kicks are useless in a real fight unless you can knock someone out in one punch.
Watch some ultimate fighting sometime, everyone of every size was bringing the fancy kicks and punches and getting their asses handed to them by joyce gracie until they started training in ground arts like wresting and jiu-jitsu.
You will end up on the ground a majority of the time, and that's where you get your arms and legs broken by a real fighter. |
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riverboy
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Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think that maybe that some people want to become flexible; develop coordination, speed and endurance?
A real martial art is not simply about fighting. Tae Kwon Do covers a range of disciplines jujitsu does not.
Besides on the street, I would want to be more mobile which TKD offers. Going to the ground presents a lot of dangers especially if he has buddy ready to kick you in the head while you are breaking his arm.
Ironyj, most schools will accept a foreigner, just go in to a school and use a few hand gestures if you can't speak Korean. If you were in Incheon I'd tell you to train at my gym. |
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Kreation
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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i'm a fan of mma myself. emelianenko is beast. does that mean i must adhere to what works best for PROFESSIONAL fighters?
pro ping pong players wear coochie cutters to help in aerodynamic efficiency. should i be doing the same? joke reference aside, get the drift?
i understand that grappling skills are necessary at a professional level.. but to the average person , the extent of a fight will be 95% talk and 5% punching/kicking/bottles. and during that 5% i'd like to do cool looking kicks instead of roll around on the floor.
That being said, this spiel is assuming the op is looking for a hobby, not a career. |
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Kreation
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
i'm a fan of mma myself. emelianenko is beast. does that mean i must adhere to what works best for PROFESSIONAL fighters?
pro ping pong players wear coochie cutters to help in aerodynamic efficiency. should i be doing the same? joke reference aside, get the drift?
i understand that grappling skills are necessary at a professional level.. but to the average person , the extent of a fight will be 95% talk and 5% punching/kicking/bottles. and during that 5% i'd like to do cool looking kicks instead of roll around on the floor.
That being said, this spiel is assuming the op is looking for a hobby, not a career. |
You're forgetting that those pros will still beat the amateur
You just admitted that grappling arts are the superior medium, and more likely to save your life in a real fight. With only 2 years of training at Offutt AFB when SAC was there, I was able to take down guys in real street fights 2-3x my size that were considered accomplished fighters.
1v1 it's grappling all the way
1vMany is debatable though, I would say jeet kune do or some form of kung fu are probably the way to go here.
For flexibility, yoga is a better use of time. |
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Kreation
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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a pro would beat a amateur? orly?
i'm not tryna start a flame war. the point i'm trying to make is that the majority of the fights you encounter will be against those of similar amateurish abilities. you say you've taken down ppl, and that's great, but your still an amateur. you are still susceptible to cool looking kicks.
also, nope never said grappling is superior but pros need to be versed in it to defend. case n point liddell, rarely does he go down, and not for long when he does. and mofo brings the pain hardcore to the brain.
as for real life threatening situations i'd have to give a nod to krav maga.
in addition, yoga would only be feasible to me if it helped do yoga flame and stretchable limbs attacks. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: taekwondo class info needed |
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| ironyj wrote: |
| does anyone know of a taekwondo studio in seoul that will accept foreign adult beginners? i would prefer not to go to itaewon. some place on the western side of the city would be ideal. thanks. |
While those guys wank them self off over which martial art is better
For taekwondo (태권도) (I actually recommend hapkido (합기도) or Judo (유도), there is a greater chance of finding adult classes), Just look around for gyms, when you find a few go in at around 10 o'clock at night and observe the classes. The master probably won't understand you, but if he tries to understand you then you have found a good one.
I was lucky I was introduced by a mate to Hapkido nearly 2 years ago (got my black a couple of months ago).
My understanding is
taekwondo is more about the quick kicks and punches
Judo is more about throwing and grappling
hapkido is more a mixture of kicking, throwing with grappling, joint stuff with some weapons.
What ever you choose the key is finding a good master that will take the time to show you things |
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Leafs42084
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| riverboy wrote: |
Do you think that maybe that some people want to become flexible; develop coordination, speed and endurance?
A real martial art is not simply about fighting. Tae Kwon Do covers a range of disciplines jujitsu does not.
Besides on the street, I would want to be more mobile which TKD offers. Going to the ground presents a lot of dangers especially if he has buddy ready to kick you in the head while you are breaking his arm.
Ironyj, most schools will accept a foreigner, just go in to a school and use a few hand gestures if you can't speak Korean. If you were in Incheon I'd tell you to train at my gym. |
I agree that TKD isnt very useful, but I have to disagree about BJJ.
Yes its great, and its really effective.... especially against guys who dont know how to defend, but if you get into a fight on th street... the last thing you want to do is go to the ground.
I'd take up boxing or thai boxing in my opinion |
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kinerry
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Leafs42084 wrote: |
| riverboy wrote: |
Do you think that maybe that some people want to become flexible; develop coordination, speed and endurance?
A real martial art is not simply about fighting. Tae Kwon Do covers a range of disciplines jujitsu does not.
Besides on the street, I would want to be more mobile which TKD offers. Going to the ground presents a lot of dangers especially if he has buddy ready to kick you in the head while you are breaking his arm.
Ironyj, most schools will accept a foreigner, just go in to a school and use a few hand gestures if you can't speak Korean. If you were in Incheon I'd tell you to train at my gym. |
Well too bad, because statistically you will over 80% of the time. In the real world you don't get to choose what happens in a fight, and it can be life or death whether you want it to be or not.
I agree that TKD isnt very useful, but I have to disagree about BJJ.
Yes its great, and its really effective.... especially against guys who dont know how to defend, but if you get into a fight on th street... the last thing you want to do is go to the ground.
I'd take up boxing or thai boxing in my opinion |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'd take up boxing or thai boxing in my opinion
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True enough. In a real street fight, good punchses are the best weapon IMO, but TKD kicks are about the fastest out there and not too many people are getting up from a front kick to the gonads.
As for the OP, maybe they don't want to get into street fights and have thier own reasons for wanting to take Tae Kwon Do. |
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blackjack
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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When will people stop this **** measuring contest over martial arts. Most Martial arts are a sport, most people take them as a sport, would you recommend some one takes rugby over basket ball because it's more "useful" in a fight?
When it comes down to it a good half drunk brawler will kick anyones arse, unless you have been training for years and are naturally gifted with a fighting instinct (this is an important thing the ability of not caring if you get or give pain) |
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