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partymop



Joined: 24 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Gangnam public school Reply with quote

Hi, I recently got offered a job in the Gangnam public school system in an elementary school. It looks great on paper, 2.5 mill, 6 weeks vac, housing and airfare as per usual. I was just wondering...

1. has anyone ever taught in the Gangnam system b4 and if so, any thoughts/comments?

2. Ive lived in korea b4 but not in gangnam. i liked visiting there, but how is it for living, specifically the higher cost of living

3. any other advice b4 i accept this job on what i should watch for would be much appreciated.

thanks a lot
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SFValley



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Gangnam public school Reply with quote

partymop wrote:
Hi, I recently got offered a job in the Gangnam public school system in an elementary school. It looks great on paper, 2.5 mill, 6 weeks vac, housing and airfare as per usual. I was just wondering...

1. has anyone ever taught in the Gangnam system b4 and if so, any thoughts/comments?

2. Ive lived in korea b4 but not in gangnam. i liked visiting there, but how is it for living, specifically the higher cost of living

3. any other advice b4 i accept this job on what i should watch for would be much appreciated.

thanks a lot


lucky duck. i'd love to be given a position in gangnam!
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Beeston27



Joined: 03 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a brilliant opportunity. The money and the location. It seems many out here are keen to work in Gangnam!!
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newinseoul



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Gangnam public school Reply with quote

partymop wrote:
Hi, I recently got offered a job in the Gangnam public school system in an elementary school. It looks great on paper, 2.5 mill, 6 weeks vac, housing and airfare as per usual. I was just wondering...

1. has anyone ever taught in the Gangnam system b4 and if so, any thoughts/comments?

2. Ive lived in korea b4 but not in gangnam. i liked visiting there, but how is it for living, specifically the higher cost of living

3. any other advice b4 i accept this job on what i should watch for would be much appreciated.

thanks a lot


I'm just finishing a year with the Gangnam school board.

1. A lot of your experience will depend on your school. You will definitely work for your money. You may be asked to work extra after school classes. I found my experience with Gangnam board not as good, as the SMOE board. Gangnam can be even more disorganized when it comes to camps, and other organization issues. You work 25 hours a week as opposed to 22 hours with SMOE.

2. You have to work two three week camps, one in summer and one in winter. The camps are intensive 9-4 type teaching. You will have to take your holidays when they tell you, unless you have a really flexible principal.

3. Many of my friends did not get picked up at the airport, nor shown their accomodations when they first arrived. They were put in a taxi, and told where to go. I didn't find Gangnam overly friendly on the whole. Appearance is of the utmost importance, as is what the parents want.

4. The two people that were in charge, have left in the last year, and I barely met the new supervisors. You will have the odd training, and lots of meeting before camp. Sometimes the meetings will be all in Korea, or totally a waste of time.

5. Gangnam is expensive, and you don't have as much choice for small grocers. I live on the main business street, and have to go to emart or Costco for groceries. There are a few nice bars and restaurants in Gangnam, but you will pay for hanging out in the district.

If there is anything else you want to know, just pm me, or ask on here.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found my experience with Gangnam completely opposite.

I find Gangnam to be hands down a LOT better than SMOE.

Then again, I'm teaching high school and not elementary.
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newinseoul



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Yes, I have friends in middle school that have to do less camp hours, such as 3 hours a day, but they don't get paid as much. Middle school and High school teachers also get a lot of extra time off with all the exams that go on during the year. A lot of your experience will entirely depend on the school you end up in. I had a dictator of a principal, who seemed to hate foreigners. They were totally by the book, and not flexible whatsoever. Last year, in SMOE, I had the entirely opposite experience. I'd say to find out what school you are going to, and talk to other foreigners there, and find out as much about the school as possible before taking the job.
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partymop



Joined: 24 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guy, thats a big help. all things to consider
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zipper



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elementary schools have less money than middle and high schools.

Elementary school co-teachers usually are not English majors. They can often be more challenging to work with than high school teachers, but of course I am just generalizing here.
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for a junior high school, my wife worked in an elementary school. You might be able to find a lot of her former posts on this forum. Although I was scheduled to work 29 hours a week it was often a lot less. My wife was scheduled for 25 hours but only worked like 21.

Like all of Seoul, it's expensive. I used to work in Japan and overall that country is more expensive than Korea. But I was surprised to find out that my cost of living was dramatically more expensive in Seoul because there are more options for foreign goods in Korea, but the prices are insane. Seoul is an expensive city to live in, but it is possible to scrimp and save if you are very careful.

As for the Gangnam BOE I can't really say anything bad about it although yes they are very disorganized. Your experience at one school will be completely different from your experience at another although the Gangnam area is pretty small. I didn't like teaching there because the kids were mostly miserable and burnt out from going to hagwons all day. When I mean all day I literally mean all day - like 9am - 9pm. I had a better experience working for EPIK, but that was in a very rural and laid back area.

I only had 4 weeks of vacation but I heard it was bumped up before I left because of mandatory summer camps. Six weeks may seem like a lot but it's not quite so great if you can't schedule it according to your needs. It's also guaranteed to be split up between the winter and summer and you might need to coordinate your vacations with another foreign teacher since most of the elementary schools have two teachers.

The absolute worst part of working in Gangnam for me was the co-teachers and not the actual city itself. BoL!
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only difference between Gangnam and other public schools in Korea are the contract pay scale/vacations.

Whether or not you get a good school is hit or miss.

The students in Gangnam tend to be at a higher English level than elsewhere. However, you will still have groups of students who don't know any English besides "Big Bang, Shinee, Wonder Girls, and 2pm".


Personally, I got lucky and ended up at an awesome school. Guy down the street from me gets worked like a slave.
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SFValley



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gangnam has its own BOE and run schools as well as schools within Gangnam run by SMOE? Does anyone know about or have any experience with the public schools in Gangnam run by SMOE? I think that is where I will be placed with SMOE this fall. Thank you.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFValley wrote:
Gangnam has its own BOE and run schools as well as schools within Gangnam run by SMOE? Does anyone know about or have any experience with the public schools in Gangnam run by SMOE? I think that is where I will be placed with SMOE this fall. Thank you.


I'm pretty sure most, if not all, Gangnam schools are administered by their own program. It seemed like a sweet, high paying gig when I ran into it a few years ago...seems like it hasn't improved much though.

By the way, what makes you think SMOE will place you in Gangnam? You don't really have any say in placement matters (or was that a George Henry promise)?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFValley wrote:
Gangnam has its own BOE and run schools as well as schools within Gangnam run by SMOE? Does anyone know about or have any experience with the public schools in Gangnam run by SMOE? I think that is where I will be placed with SMOE this fall. Thank you.


Some schools in the Gangnam-gu disrtict is under the SMOE umbrella and not Gangnam BOE.

However, most of the schools in the "Gangnam" area (Make a giant rectangle from Apgujeong to Dogok Station, and Gyodae to Seollung Station) is under the Gangnam BOE.
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newinseoul



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFValley wrote:
Gangnam has its own BOE and run schools as well as schools within Gangnam run by SMOE? Does anyone know about or have any experience with the public schools in Gangnam run by SMOE? I think that is where I will be placed with SMOE this fall. Thank you.


I have a friend that works in Gangnam school area, but work for SMOE. She works near Express Terminal in fact. Her contract is with SMOE, but she has to come to the camp meetings, and sometimes the camp is run the same as Gangnam camps. She has the same schedule for camp. Other than that, she works 22 instead of 25 hours a week, and goes by the SMOE contract. I hope this helps.
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valkerie



Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gangnam don't divvy up for a return flight ticket if u renew....of course they pay return fare if u finish a year and move on.

You will likely live very centrally but have to travel to school...this may be 2 buses or 1 bus/i subway ride.

Just two things I didn't see mentioned. Some good stuff has been put out there already.
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