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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: swine flu gives 7 days Reply with quote

Just got back from vacation and was told I have another 7 days vacation as I cant be near the students for 7 days. There is a god after all.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you still get paid? If so, swine flu is your friend.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swine flu is my friend. I was told last Friday that when I get back to K-land from vacation (on Aug. 30), I can't come to school/work for a week - until Sept. 7.

I like it! Very Happy
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will only miss two days of term time but those two days will be taken from my sick days. Gee I might be sick often this year!
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horangi Munshin wrote:
I will only miss two days of term time but those two days will be taken from my sick days.

You should fight that.

If you're here (in K-land), willing and able to go to work; but they tell you not to, there's no way those days should be 'taken' from your sick days.

Which is your POE/MOE?
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Horangi Munshin wrote:
I will only miss two days of term time but those two days will be taken from my sick days.

You should fight that.

If you're here (in K-land), willing and able to go to work; but they tell you not to, there's no way those days should be 'taken' from your sick days.

Which is your POE/MOE?



This would only be true if one didn't know there was a quarantine in effect, right? Seeing as it is common knowledge, yet one still chooses to take a holiday out of country...

Not trying to cause trouble in saying so, but if we know there is a quarantine in effect and still we leave the country, why should we get paid? Of course, if this quarantine thing really is illegal (which seems odd; isn't it a per-country decision?) then yes, fight the fight, but otherwise, those are the rules.

Pandemics (real or not) are generally inconvenient.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
This would only be true if one didn't know there was a quarantine in effect, right?

WRONG!

There is no quarantine. From where are getting this crap?

My POE doesn't want me to come to work... so I stay home, get paid and the days do not come out of my sick days (or holidays).
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What?! Someone said you were banned CM, good thing it wasn't true.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to ask my co-teacher twice about this idiotic situation.
Told her only foreigners were being subjected to the 'quarantine' and she didn't believe me.
Later I asked my head teacher and she confirmed the rumor. Rolling Eyes

Now they are upset because when I applied for the vacation there was no swine flu 'quarantine'. I end up missing the first 3 days of school Laughing

I will say this much, I'd better not lose sick days or pay because of some moron that can't send out a memo detailing proper procedure for this situation. It isn't my fault the Korean Board of Ed doesn't want me to be around kids, so why penalize me?
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Horangi Munshin wrote:
I will only miss two days of term time but those two days will be taken from my sick days.

You should fight that.

If you're here (in K-land), willing and able to go to work; but they tell you not to, there's no way those days should be 'taken' from your sick days.

Which is your POE/MOE?


I'm in Busan. Lots of BS this year. 22 classes is the new minimum and maximum, desk warming when I didn't have it before, (same principal).

I will clarify it. I was originally told they would be vacation days, great free vacation days Smile. Then I wondered and asked since those two days are the first two days of my new contract whether they were going to try deducting them from my new contract vacation days or what. No firm answer yet. P and VP aren't in this week.

I have talked to Korean friends and Korean teachers in other schools. I asked them if they would avoid meeting me for seven days after I return. A few said yes "That is the rule.", the others a definite "No, why?" The local schools have many cases of kids with the H1N1 virus. It's already here. I also read online that the government is going to shift its focus from quarantining to damage control.
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teacha



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:

This would only be true if one didn't know there was a quarantine in effect, right? Seeing as it is common knowledge, yet one still chooses to take a holiday out of country...


that's retarded. even korean doctors are no longer testing for swine flu when sick people come to the hospital exhibiting symptoms. my doctor said there were just too many cases in Korea as it is, it can no longer be contained and is not worth it to test anymore.

where are people hearing these crazy ideas that there is this big government mandated quarantine against swine flu in korea? even the regular korean news reports that the number of cases in korea are on the rise and so high, it's not worth reporting anymore.
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
This would only be true if one didn't know there was a quarantine in effect, right? Seeing as it is common knowledge, yet one still chooses to take a holiday out of country...

Not trying to cause trouble in saying so, but if we know there is a quarantine in effect and still we leave the country, why should we get paid? Of course, if this quarantine thing really is illegal (which seems odd; isn't it a per-country decision?) then yes, fight the fight, but otherwise, those are the rules.

Pandemics (real or not) are generally inconvenient.


Ummm WRONG!!

There is no quarantine in effect and there has never been a Ministry of Health declaration that NET's leaving the country must undergo a 7 days quarantine period before returning to work. Hell there hasn't even been a local MOE declaration to that effect (at least as far as incheon MOE is concerned)

Nothing official has ever been stated and doubtfully will ever be stated so the person has ever right to fight for his 2 sick days back because that is illegal!
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romano812



Joined: 09 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: 7 days Reply with quote

Yep, as far as I know it's 7 days. My flight has been booked for months and now my employer (public school) says I have to come back a week early. No extra holidays, no time off, and no extra pay. I told them in very nice words...uh No!
We haven't been able to resolve this, so chances are I will not be returning to Korea from my vacation.
Every foreigner travelling from North America that I have talked to recently has been subject to this 7 days. As far as I know it is not a "lock down" situation, but you must stay away from work (i.e. the children) for a 7 day period until you are checked and cleared.
Funny how things like this never seem to apply to the Korean staff.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

espoir wrote:
Demophobe wrote:
This would only be true if one didn't know there was a quarantine in effect, right? Seeing as it is common knowledge, yet one still chooses to take a holiday out of country...

Not trying to cause trouble in saying so, but if we know there is a quarantine in effect and still we leave the country, why should we get paid? Of course, if this quarantine thing really is illegal (which seems odd; isn't it a per-country decision?) then yes, fight the fight, but otherwise, those are the rules.

Pandemics (real or not) are generally inconvenient.


Ummm WRONG!!

There is no quarantine in effect and there has never been a Ministry of Health declaration that NET's leaving the country must undergo a 7 days quarantine period before returning to work. Hell there hasn't even been a local MOE declaration to that effect (at least as far as incheon MOE is concerned)

Nothing official has ever been stated and doubtfully will ever be stated so the person has ever right to fight for his 2 sick days back because that is illegal!



I am not wrong, as I didn't say there was or wasn't a quarantine. Read carefully.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kindergarten I am sending my child too said they will not accept my son until one week after he came back from the trip.

It is clear that we no longer will be requiring their services.
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