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[bnrockin]

I found this guy complaining in the Seoul Times or one of those papers and took a look at his site.

There is nothing too special about his case, typical screwed over guy...except he has video of his boss doing it and is opening calling for internet vigilantism.

Now this is how you REALLY file a grievance, catch the bastard on tape.

http://ecjl.bravehost.com/english.html

*watch how he rubs his belly! Either he is insecure about his weight or a Buddha reincarnate.

[Kikomom]

It's been posted on Dave's a couple times now. He took it to the mainstream, you say? Got a link to that?

As legitimate as Nick's complaints may be, sadly, he's an embarrassment on how he presents himself. Which, in turn, brings some sympathy for the boss who seems to earnestly be trying to do what's best for both of them in the circumstances. imho

[bnrockin]

"As legitimate as Nick's complaints may be, sadly, he's an embarrassment on how he presents himself. Which, in turn, brings some sympathy for the boss who seems to earnestly be trying to do what's best for both of them in the circumstances. imho"

Agreed

Forgive me, it was the Korea Times


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/community/talkbox_view.asp?categoryCode=186&field=&keyword=&page=2&idx=213000

[Kikomom]

Well, no one there is commenting. That's a good sign? Even the mob there knows not to get involved when someone is losing face.

[SharkDiver]

It doesn't matter an ounce how the teacher presented himself. His boss is still a sheister and a thief every bit as much and I have no sympathy for the scum at all. Being f*ed over is diffcult to go through and its almost impossible to conduct yourself ideally. He was unconfrontational which is a good starting point.


Let's get real, clearly the boss is NOT doing what's best for BOTH of them! The boss is doing what's right for HIMSELF. If he was trying to help this teacher he wouldn't be screw_ing him over.

Going bankrupt, financial problems etc etc (although sometimes valid) are usually nothing but cheap excuses the majority of these crapwon owners come up with to short whoever they can, all the while with their tens of millions of won tucked nicely away.

Let the bast*rd lose face.......good for him.......

[Theo]

We have entered an age where so many major and minor crimes are caught on video; surveillance, or more often than not, the camera device on someone�s cell phone. Such video evidence has led to arrests of exhibitionists (in Korea known as �Burberry men�), pickpockets, and all sorts of violent behavior.

If the expat teacher/videographer Nick Mistretta (he voluntarily posted his name in association with the video on this forum and elsewhere) had simply told his story by text post, a vast majority of folks on this forum would have doubted him; just as they have hurled accusations and insults at me for even mentioning that I was physically disabled in Korea as a result of my employer and the �hospital� (certainly wish I had shot some covert video as proof).

I think Nick Mistretta had every right and reason to photograph these critical conversations with Mr. Park. I�ve experienced first-hand, someone in Korea (and China) being very friendly and smiling while they were informing me I was being kicked into the street. (Detailed provided, if pressed.)

The fact that Mr. Park appears so polite and a bit nervous and befuddled doesn�t make him any less guilty about what he is doing. His attitude regarding the contract is a sterling illustration of the double standard expats are often confronted with in the ESL world of Korea.

I hope more and more videos such as this are made and offered for public view. Then perhaps some reform will slowly emerge on the employer side of the equation. As it stands now, the E-2 visa has the foreigner so bound to the employer that the situation is ripe with potential abuse by the boss.

[Kikomom]

Ok fine, get it on video. But don't make yourself look like an a** while you're at it. Man, you guys have a lot to learn about plotting your revenge. Take a tip from an American adjumma (me), you may not like the local culture, but at least learn to use it to your advantage.

Got checkers?

[yingwenlaoshi]

All he's doing is exposing his employer for the asshat that he is.

Case closed. Get real.

[Theo]

[bassexpander]

I dunno... I watched a bit of one video, and although I sympathize with the foreigner (very much), he did sound kind of rude in the part of the clip I heard.

Comments like, "What does that mean in English?" after the boss already told him (poorly, but well enough to be understood) makes the teacher seem like... well... kind of an asshat. I'm going to stop short of calling him an asshat, though, because I haven't walked in his shoes and experienced how poor this boss apparently is. I'm just saying that to a total outsider who doesn't know much about the situation, that's how the videos could appear. And to a Korean court official, for example, it could actually be used to make a case that the teacher was "difficult." Do I agree with that kind of logic? No... but Koreans tend to think their own way...

I really should watch more before I comment further, though.

[Chambertin]

I agree, the person came off as a gleefull kid who thinks they just found out how to open the cookie jar.

Sure the situation must have been bad, and credit to filming it, but at times it seems scripted. For all I know this is some guy and his buddy puting on a show.

Thats my vote.

[romano812]

watching the whole thing. This is an evil boss? If the business is failing and he's closing up, guess what? You have no job and employees are far down on the list of people who have to be compensated. The guy is probably embarrassed that his business has failed and is trying to explain this nicely to the teacher. At one point he even offers to help him find a job.
There are far worse schools out there than this one.
I'm sorry, no sympathy for this guy. Grow up and suck it up buddy. Hope the guy doesn't come back and sue you for making that video.

[Carla]

[CentralCali]

A Korean court recently ruled that "the truth is a defense" against a charge of libel or slander. Of course, they had to add another condition: speaking out about the incident "must be for the betterment of society." I mentioned that already in the other thread about this video.

Also, the teacher concerned isn't in Korea anymore and thus probably couldn't care less about Korea's laws protecting dishonest scum from the consequences of their actions. The sooner bosses like the one in the video cotton to the idea that they will be exposed the better it will be for everyone.

[Carla]