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[CentralCali]

[Sergio Stefanuto]

[CentralCali]

Okay. Can you post something from the Qur'an that specifically considers women as property?

[Sergio Stefanuto]

An Islam 101 debate of this kind isn't desirable.

[mateomiguel]

[bacasper]

[mateomiguel]

You also haven't yet mentioned the function of smegma and foreskin in last-minute cockblocking. Have you ever met a girl who said "eww, your *beep* is clean, cut and familiar to me, I won't touch it." ? no? But I know the opposite happens!

[Sergio Stefanuto]

Denmark:

[mises]

The push to tolerate islam at risk of pejorative punishes women and appeases misogynistic men.

[cwflaneur]

Comparison to the other Abrahamic religions is misleading. All of them are fundamentally misogynistic. However, the equivalence argument ignores the fact that only in Islam, in the Koran and the hadith, do you see detailed, written rules cementing woman's position of inferiority. The act of violence and the cult of misogyny are codified and ritualized by these texts: from the number of wives a man may have, to the number of male witnesses required for a woman to bear witness against a man (four), to the specification of the exact number of public lashes to be give to a prostitute (100), to the punishment for adultery (death), to the explicit permission given to men for domestic violence - "if your wife disobeys you, first rebuke her and sleep away from her; if she persists, you may beat her".

St Paul simply says "wives, obey your husbands". That's obvious Bronze Age garbage, but not quite the sort of codified endorsement of and permission for violence that you find in the Koran and the hadith.

This is what you have to understand. Islam is the prescription for a complete ordering of civil society according to the social mores of an ancient desert culture, but presented as the eternal and unchanging Word of Allah. It is not just an otherworldly promise of future happiness in exchange for faith, as Christianity, with its long-understood distinction (not always separation, but distinction) between the idea of civil life and spiritual life - Render unto Caesar, etc, has always been. In contrast, not a single aspect of life is left untouched by the sacred texts of Islam.

So you see, it is not a question of whether Islam or Islamic peoples are inherently more woman-hating in their character than Christianity. It is a question of the availability of the warrant for acts of violence.

Honour killings are simply a vigilante expression of violence that would, in an orthodox Islamic context, be carried out by legitimized state and social means: not always by death, but never in a manner that's any less contemptuous of the idea of the female as a social and human creature equal to the male.

[ELGORDO]

You don't hear a word from U.S. Feminists on stuff like this because they are leftist first and only use the "sexist" charge when it helps their agenda- i.e. hiring more women as firefighters, getting Larry Summers fired as Pres of Harvard, etc. Women getting stoned to death? Who cares. Thats just the richness of diversity.

[ytuque]

[Sergio Stefanuto]

[bacasper]

[ytuque]