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Ck10n3
Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: Charging me for being late to class? |
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In my contract it states: "5. If the INSTRUCTOR is late for class by ten minutes or more, the INSTRUCTOR shall be penalized nine thousand Korean won(KRW 9,000).
6. If the INSTRUCTOR is absent from class with a valid excuse, fifteen thousand Korean won (KRW 15,000) shall be deducted from the INSTRUCTOR's next pay. If there is no valid excuse, thirty thousand Korean won(KRW 30,000) shall be deducted.
At the discretion of the Academic Director, greater deductions for consistent lateness or absenteeism may be imposed."
Is this legal under Korean employment law?
Also... does anyone know what the current income tax rate would be for a 2.2m paying position? |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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When students are late for class they get corporal punishment. Would you rather prefer that for yourself? It's the Korean culture of arriving before the boss does. Teacher coming late to school sets bad example to students and will be punished whether it is lawful or not. Know this: in Korea the Principal is oyabong, big cheese, top dog, god of thunder, etc. Do not cross his path or earn his displeasure by coming to school late.
Tax is around 3.0-3.5% |
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DJTwoTone
Joined: 11 Mar 2003 Location: Yangsan - I'm not sure where it is either
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Drop that contract and never look back... |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Is this legal under Korean employment law? |
Tell us why you really want to quit your job. It can't be just because you were late. That kind of stuff you chalk up and move on. There has to be something else going on for you bring up such a petty complaint. |
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fraukoch
Joined: 25 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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You can be sure that the previous foreigners who have worked at that school set a stellar example that left no problems for subsequent teachers. |
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FistFace

Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Look at this contract from HIEnglish:
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5. Payment
Agent will pay the Instructor the total of KRW per hour for the contract period. 3.3% of tax will be deducted before money transaction. The payment will be paid in the following fourteen business days after one month of teaching and the hour payment can be renegotiated and agreed by Instructor when Agent asks. The teaching hours will be recorded and calculated by Agent. In addition, 20% of the instructor�s first pay check will be held as a deposit. If for any reason the instructor leaves the company without notification, it will be put towards advertising in finding a new instructor But if the instructor does give us notification in advance and finds a replacement instructor it will be returned
6. Dress code
Suits are allowed in the classroom for Instructors. Casual clothing is strongly prohibited in a classroom.
7. Dismissal
Any time, Agent will have the right to dismiss Instructor for a clear and neglect of his/her duties under this agreement, including but not limited to, absences without approval of Agent or inability to perform his/her duties, dissatisfied teaching and others.
8. Class Instruction
1) Class Absences
Notify the program coordinator one-business-day in advance of any absences. If not, you need to provide one hour teaching to the students without payment.
TC (cancellation by teacher) will be granted just once a month. If TC is more than once a month, instructor must do a make-up lesson adjust student�s schedule. If Instructor is not able to, the agent will deduct 30% of 1hour payment.
TX (cancellation by teacher without notice) is not acceptable for any case. In this case, the agent will deduct 50% of 1hour payment.
SC (cancellation by student) is the event that the students cancel the class with prior notice before starting class, we do not provide tuition, However, we provide the half of the payment to instructor if the students cancel the class last-minute on the appointed day.
2) Late
The class will be cancelled (=absence) if Instructor is late for his/her class more than 15 min. If Instructor comes to the class late more than two times in a month, you need to provide one hour teaching to the students without payment
3) Neglect of instruction
Instructor shall respect and follow the instruction from Agent. Every instruction from Agent shall be performed under guideline of Agent. Any decision on the class including students, course materials, teaching method, and other must be announced by Agent. If Instructor communicate on this issue with students and client�s company of Agent without approval and confirmation from Agent, Agent will have right to deduct two-day payment for each time.
4) Resignation of Instructor
In the event that the Instructor has to resign prior to the termination of the term of this Agreement, one-month advance notification is required.
5) Communication with client corporations
Every communication between Instructor and the client company of Agent shall be controlled by Agent. Instructor must refuse any direct requests of teaching from company and students and shall notify it to Agent immediately. If Instructor violate this agreement, Agent will have right to deduct two day payment.
10. Sexual Harassment
The Instructor is committed to provide students with a learning environment, which is safe, comfortable, and productive. Sexual harassment in any form or any other relationship with student inside/or outside of class will not be tolerated. If this event affects Agent financially, Agent will have the right to dismiss Instructor and Instructor must reimburse for Agent�s financial lost (2X).
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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FF: That's quite the sweep of the labor laws that outfit's urinating on, isn't it? |
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FistFace

Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.
HIEnglish advertises all over worknplay. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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andrewchon wrote: |
When students are late for class they get corporal punishment. Would you rather prefer that for yourself? It's the Korean culture of arriving before the boss does. Teacher coming late to school sets bad example to students and will be punished whether it is lawful or not. Know this: in Korea the Principal is oyabong, big cheese, top dog, god of thunder, etc. Do not cross his path or earn his displeasure by coming to school late.
Tax is around 3.0-3.5% |
According to the Korean Tax Service's website, the tax rate for 2.2 million won is 1.3 per cent, or 29,090 Won a month.
My students show up late to my class and no one thinks twice about it. Many times it's because their homeroom teachers keep them behind to the clean the classroom, which is much more important than English. That's why they keep doing it. No one beats them for it. The students think it's a joke.
There are many times when I show up on time and my co-teacher is 10 minutes late for class. There are even times when she doesn't show up at all. No one punishes her.
Teachers at my school regularly come to school after the 8:30 a.m. starting time. No one says anything.
I think Korean school principals get too much credit. They are infinitely lazy compared to their Western counterparts and I wouldn't even call them principals. They just like to have everyone bow to them and respect them for the sake of it. Their job is just a title designed to inflate their own egos. That's silly.
My principal rarely steps out of his office. He has no clue what is happening in his school. He never talks to the kids, doesn't give advice or contribute anything useful to the teachers other than his stupid speeches where he basically commands everyone to be obedient. Quality control at my school is horrible. Teachers are expected to solve their own problems. As far as I'm concerned, principals in Korea don't deserve any respect and certainly don't have mine. Of course my principal doesn't know that though! |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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There is a lot of confusion about the tax rate, and I am no expert. This is what I have gathered from everyone else. So, true or not, this is just a summary of everyone else's experiences.
Most of the time, the tax is ~3.5%. This is the tax rate for independant contractors. This is how a lot of the schools apply it, nothing dishonest about it.
Now, normally, the tax rate would be about ~1.7% for an employee (which you see if you go to the tax website and input your figures). So, there are people who have went to the tax office with their employer and the contract to prove they are "employees" and not "independent contractors." Then, their taxes were changed and they received a refund for the difference, and their director learned something.
This is just what I have gathered from other people. This is not my personal experience, yet. I will of course be trying this later.
But for the record, the people who changed their taxes did say that the entire 3.5% was paid to the tax office. Their boss was not pocketing anything, everything was legit, just filed incorrectly. |
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Ck10n3
Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Haha well I have yet to actually partake in the contract which is listed. I was told by UrbanMyth under the contract thread that this was quasi-illegal so I took steps to find out why.
Big Mac could you give me the link to that site? I tried to find it earlier for about an hour and could not find exactly that statement. |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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DJTwoTone wrote: |
Drop that contract and never look back... |
This.
If you're already feeling like something's shady while they're still trying to hook you, imagine how bad it's going to get once you're here.
You don't have to take whatever crappy contract floats past you first. |
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