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Report: Most Sex Crimes Happen on Seoul Subway Line No. 2
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stayfocused



Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
stayfocused wrote:
some dude kept pushing my hand into this girls ass. by the 4th attempt i realized he was doing it on purpose.


This makes no sense. Why would a perv use your hand rather than his own to cop a feel?


I'll ask him next time I see him.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Report: Most Sex Crimes Happen on Seoul Subway Line No. Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
well in all fairness, Korean girls are asking for it sometimes..
I mean like , some of those skirts are so short now, you can see their panties while they walk..


I could say that this is a "blame the victim" approach.
I could say that perverts should keep their hands and cameras to themselves.


Both of these are valid arguments, but instead I'll argue that if women start agreeing with you, they might stop wearing short skirts. And we don't want that, do we? Cool
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course I am not saying its their fault entirely!!
of course the guys are perverted sick freaks...
all blame lies on the guys... they have no rights to touch anyone..

you hear on the news 2 weeks ago, about the korean family man..
has two kids in highschool, has a masters degree, and is a manager in a big company, he climbed up a pipe and broke into a highschool girls bedroom and raped her.. he got caught and with his jacket over his head replied to the policemen who asked hiim why he did it..
guess what his reply was???

JUST!
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DaeguKid



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
The reason it happens down there is probably because of all of the bikini and sex bars down in the SNU of Education area, and along that area of Line 2 in general.



yeah, that is probably the reason why it happens!

it is 8am and i am off to work....heck, what you know! there are bikini/sex bars just above my head! time to cop a feel! Rolling Eyes
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of undercover Det Olivia Bensons with a couple of of Det Fins with Det Stablers would take care of the problem in no time. But, first, the police have to WANT to catch the perps.
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dalem



Joined: 30 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow that's intense. are these assults mostly on korean women, or women in general? also, do they mean the most of anywhere in seoul, or just the most of any of the subway lines?
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaeguKid wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
The reason it happens down there is probably because of all of the bikini and sex bars down in the SNU of Education area, and along that area of Line 2 in general.



yeah, that is probably the reason why it happens!

it is 8am and i am off to work....heck, what you know! there are bikini/sex bars just above my head! time to cop a feel! Rolling Eyes

I'm doubt he means it's a conscious, thought out plan like you sarcastically implied. It might just be that a lot of guys are horny from the sex bars and express that on the subway.

Mind you, I don't think it's probably the case; I don't think it's a very viable theory at all, actually. But let's be fair in our criticism and not make a straw man, shall we?
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SFValley



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone catch that Dave Chappelle comedy skit about women looking like **** and being treated as such? Basically, there's miscommunication in representation. If Dave were to dress like a cop and some crime was happening and a lady ran over screaming for help, he'd say, "LOOK lady, JUST because I'm DRESSED like a cop and LOOK like a cop, it DOESN'T mean I AM a cop! Leave me alone!!" So Dave says it's not men's fault if they can't tell the difference between women who dress like **** and those who actually are.

However, I think it still stands, that even with real **** you need to get consent first (I'm not sure how it works but I'm guessing you pay them first?) before you get to feel anything - so men need to keep their touching to themselves.

There's no excuse for a man being able to assault a person EVER. A girl dressed promiscuously is not ASKING for it when she chooses to dress a certain way. If she gets mistaken for a profession she is not in, I suppose she is justifiably responsible for appearing as such, but that never gives a man a right to assault her, period.

Honestly, are the men who perv on subways THAT incapable of controlling themselves? Seeing some skin is enough to get them going to the degree where they feel they need to act out their lust?? Geez.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

more info on the sex and bikini bars please! Very Happy

Elaborate!
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaeguKid wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
The reason it happens down there is probably because of all of the bikini and sex bars down in the SNU of Education area, and along that area of Line 2 in general.



yeah, that is probably the reason why it happens!

it is 8am and i am off to work....heck, what you know! there are bikini/sex bars just above my head! time to cop a feel! Rolling Eyes


Dude, some room salons and sex shops in that area run 24/7 so men can do "business.". You don't think it's possible that some guy would leave a bar horney and drunk at any time of day or night and try to cop a feel on some PYT? Most of the high-dollar hookers live between kangnam station and sinsa station. That's well-known. Maybe the ajoshis think a girl in a mini in that area is likely a hooker and won't complain? Could be many reasons.
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But why unnecessarily tempt criminals? If someone got pick pocketed after flashing wads of cash around I wonder how many of you would be saying "Don't blame the victim".
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DaeguKid



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
DaeguKid wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
The reason it happens down there is probably because of all of the bikini and sex bars down in the SNU of Education area, and along that area of Line 2 in general.



yeah, that is probably the reason why it happens!

it is 8am and i am off to work....heck, what you know! there are bikini/sex bars just above my head! time to cop a feel! Rolling Eyes


Dude, some room salons and sex shops in that area run 24/7 so men can do "business.". You don't think it's possible that some guy would leave a bar horney and drunk at any time of day or night and try to cop a feel on some PYT? Most of the high-dollar hookers live between kangnam station and sinsa station. That's well-known. Maybe the ajoshis think a girl in a mini in that area is likely a hooker and won't complain? Could be many reasons.


I do think it is possible that a guy leaves a bar horny and cops a feel on the subway....Though NOT in the morning rush hour, especially the 60 plus percent of the ones they caught at that time! And any guy that is hitting sex clubs at that hour ain't riding the subway after to the office or home for that matter. They tend to drive their Equus or grab a cab.

Here is a more probable thought: Women are not seen as equals in this country. That rape or domestics hardly get taken seriously. That when K-men see a hot chick they feel they have the right to reach out and have a squeeze and that there will be no penalty to follow. A little more probable I would say then just being on Line 2 and who lives in the hood.
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Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone got any experience with the Japanese Subways? Seen pictures where the commuters are literally shoved in on top of one another. Women included. Maybe they just accept the gropping as a matter of course over there.

I also fail to see what satisfaction one would get from flashing a camera to see under a girls skirt. Maybe they are testing an electronics surveilance system, or maybe they are hopping to find a girl with transparent underware.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope some of you are not suggesting people should be molested because of the way they dress. Perhaps dudes should get punched for looking like a douche.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
I hope some of you are not suggesting people should be molested because of the way they dress. Perhaps dudes should get punched for looking like a douche.


that would mean...

are you encouraging wholesale violence against the majority of the Korean male population?

Shocked

Very Happy
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