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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Or you can just stop consuming ALL media. Whether it's "mainstream" or "indie". Stop injecting that garbage into your mind.
Isn't that truely the hip thing to do? |
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TheMarsTravolta
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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wha??? walden? |
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hydrogonian
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Location: Cloud seven
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Dude, I feel where your coming from. I do. Ive been there and done that, in terms of feeling more aligned with certain groups of people and therefore gravitating to them. In my early twenties, I was a dreadlocked hippy(some of those values are still a part of me, but prob. not the ones you think), and then when I got into a broader range of music, I felt that I needed to hang out with indie types.. But here's the deal:
Whether you realize it or not, your going to come off as a massive tool to most of the world. And I mean to a wide range of good, quality and interesting people. And your going to come off like this in a way that is out of your awareness. Why is this? Because by choosing the people whom you want to hang out with, based on your criteria, you are going to selectively ignore or come off as stuck up to people and they are going to notice. People like me. People who may even share your interests, but choose not to look like we do. Who choose not to look like we belong to any one 'club'.
Hell, happened to me this weekend. Had a couples weekend at the beach and one girl brought her hipster boyfriend from some small town 2 hours north of the city. I probably had waaayyyy more experiences and friends that aligned with his interests, having lived in a big city most of my life, than he has ever dreamt of having. Except he will never know it. He chose to be aloof with everyone all weekend, and it was obvious that he saw us as under him. I could do nothing but chuckle to myself and feel sorry for him. But he did spend extra alone time in the room every morning to make himslef look extra hipster. So he looked the part. And his GF was flirting heavily with me by the end of the weekend. Why? I dont know. Maybe because I come off as a genuine person. Maybe. And her BF still had some growing up to do. Remember, quality women want men, not boys.
Here's the deal in Korea. There is a relatively small community of westerners to become friends with. I suggest you be open to all of them, and to give everyone a chance. Dont come off as stuck up or judgemental. Even spend time with the ones who do not seem cool or attractive at all, as Korea can be a tough place to live for everyone and the more friends you make the better. It takes a certain maturity to live in another country successfully, and that means interacting with the expat community like a professional adult. While admitting that I would have asked the same question as you six years ago, I will say now that yu should interact with the expat community as an adult and lose the pretense. You will have more fun and more success this way. |
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hydrogonian
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Location: Cloud seven
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: Re: INDIE People in Seoul |
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[quote="kinerry"]
JasperTeach wrote: |
For someone who wants to be original, you sure sound like everyone I know. |
Thats the other point. Do you realize that your making your own mainstream? The only way to be unique is to be yourself. Don't join the club, no matter what it is. |
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JasperTeach
Joined: 13 Apr 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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hydrogonian wrote: |
Dude, I feel where your coming from. I do. Ive been there and done that, in terms of feeling more aligned with certain groups of people and therefore gravitating to them. In my early twenties, I was a dreadlocked hippy(some of those values are still a part of me, but prob. not the ones you think), and then when I got into a broader range of music, I felt that I needed to hang out with indie types.. But here's the deal:
Whether you realize it or not, your going to come off as a massive tool to most of the world. And I mean to a wide range of good, quality and interesting people. And your going to come off like this in a way that is out of your awareness. Why is this? Because by choosing the people whom you want to hang out with, based on your criteria, you are going to selectively ignore or come off as stuck up to people and they are going to notice. People like me. People who may even share your interests, but choose not to look like we do. Who choose not to look like we belong to any one 'club'.
Hell, happened to me this weekend. Had a couples weekend at the beach and one girl brought her hipster boyfriend from some small town 2 hours north of the city. I probably had waaayyyy more experiences and friends that aligned with his interests, having lived in a big city most of my life, than he has ever dreamt of having. Except he will never know it. He chose to be aloof with everyone all weekend, and it was obvious that he saw us as under him. I could do nothing but chuckle to myself and feel sorry for him. But he did spend extra alone time in the room every morning to make himslef look extra hipster. So he looked the part. And his GF was flirting heavily with me by the end of the weekend. Why? I dont know. Maybe because I come off as a genuine person. Maybe. And her BF still had some growing up to do. Remember, quality women want men, not boys.
Here's the deal in Korea. There is a relatively small community of westerners to become friends with. I suggest you be open to all of them, and to give everyone a chance. Dont come off as stuck up or judgemental. Even spend time with the ones who do not seem cool or attractive at all, as Korea can be a tough place to live for everyone and the more friends you make the better. It takes a certain maturity to live in another country successfully, and that means interacting with the expat community like a professional adult. While admitting that I would have asked the same question as you six years ago, I will say now that yu should interact with the expat community as an adult and lose the pretense. You will have more fun and more success this way. |
Not a douche like your beach buddy, I'm actually quite personable. Just looking for some people with common interests because I already know I'm going to run into the whole expat community and lots of different people. I have a friend over there who said he couldn't find any alternative/indie/hippie people at all, so that's where my concern stems from. I don't need or want them as my exclusive friend group, but I'd like to find em regardless. |
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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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hydrogonian wrote: |
Dude, I feel where your coming from. I do. Ive been there and done that, in terms of feeling more aligned with certain groups of people and therefore gravitating to them. In my early twenties, I was a dreadlocked hippy(some of those values are still a part of me, but prob. not the ones you think), and then when I got into a broader range of music, I felt that I needed to hang out with indie types.. But here's the deal:
Whether you realize it or not, your going to come off as a massive tool to most of the world. And I mean to a wide range of good, quality and interesting people. And your going to come off like this in a way that is out of your awareness. Why is this? Because by choosing the people whom you want to hang out with, based on your criteria, you are going to selectively ignore or come off as stuck up to people and they are going to notice. People like me. People who may even share your interests, but choose not to look like we do. Who choose not to look like we belong to any one 'club'.
Hell, happened to me this weekend. Had a couples weekend at the beach and one girl brought her hipster boyfriend from some small town 2 hours north of the city. I probably had waaayyyy more experiences and friends that aligned with his interests, having lived in a big city most of my life, than he has ever dreamt of having. Except he will never know it. He chose to be aloof with everyone all weekend, and it was obvious that he saw us as under him. I could do nothing but chuckle to myself and feel sorry for him. But he did spend extra alone time in the room every morning to make himslef look extra hipster. So he looked the part. And his GF was flirting heavily with me by the end of the weekend. Why? I dont know. Maybe because I come off as a genuine person. Maybe. And her BF still had some growing up to do. Remember, quality women want men, not boys.
Here's the deal in Korea. There is a relatively small community of westerners to become friends with. I suggest you be open to all of them, and to give everyone a chance. Dont come off as stuck up or judgemental. Even spend time with the ones who do not seem cool or attractive at all, as Korea can be a tough place to live for everyone and the more friends you make the better. It takes a certain maturity to live in another country successfully, and that means interacting with the expat community like a professional adult. While admitting that I would have asked the same question as you six years ago, I will say now that yu should interact with the expat community as an adult and lose the pretense. You will have more fun and more success this way. |
Very well said. You nailed it. |
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