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What do Koreans think of ESL teachers' view of Korea
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spyro25



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in fact, i would like to apologize to koreans or other posters who were offended by those comments. thats what living in korea has made me become, and i can't believe that i am actually turning out that way. its not how i was raised to be.

whether you accept or not is up to you, just putting it out there
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earthbound14



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lot's of threads from Daves get translated, usually the ones that talk about Korea and often the negative ones...but not always. A thread on the best Asian movies has been translated into Korean, Japanese and Chinese.

I don't know why what we write on a message board becomes so interesting....probably cause we don't have our own press and there is no other way to find out what the waeguks are thinking....just curious (in a self obsorbed way) I guess. Perhaps if foreign folks had their own media outlet they would stop mining this pitiful resource for gems to translate and comment on.

Perhaps they should allow foreign people to work for their trash English papers...then we'd actually have something to talk about (and read).
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Big Mac



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can see those translations are not complete. The translator is taking selections from each post, probably in an attempt to make them sound worse than they really are.

I don't care though if Koreans read what I wrote. They need to see how the rest of the world views them.
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E_athlete



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will laugh when they come out with their next article titled "what waygooksamins say about what we think about what they think"

coming soon!
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Koveras



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, someone translate the damn thing.
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Ninja_Assasin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok here's Translation.

아나: Aren't they the ESL trash without certificates? They would've lived as third class people had they stayed in their home country.

.: I think they are chinks.

ㅇㅇ: It's filled with loser parasites from so called advanced country who came to 32nd country to teach.

다른나라들: Don't other countries get the economic aid as well? So why can't they be like us then?

ㄹㄹ: But they make money in Korea... Stupid people..

퍽킹: It's not bad to know their opinions .. but they claim they are from advanced country but didn't they invade other countries and colonized in order to become rich? To hear such opinion from likes of them really pisses me off.

asdf: I thought we were 12nd place. Since when did we become 32nd place?

ring: It is incredible. That's correct. Our country grew remarkably, but so are the human trashs in that site.

121: At least we are better than some countries in europe, usa and japan who colonized other countries in order to acheive economic growth.

ㅉㅉㅉ: Pathetic yankees. You know what? Even homeless people in Korea are more deligents than you lazy bums.

=_=: We shoudln't be arrogant but it's something we should be proud of. I'm not gonna deny we didn't get economic aid but what they are saying is ridiculous. After 6.25 the entire Korea peninsula was wasted and we were ranked 2nd poorest country in the world. But in just 60 years we became 14th in economy. If this is not a miracle, what is?
And there are other countries who also received economic aid. But in just half century we grew so much and as a Korean, it's something to be proud of.

ㅁ: It's because our mercanary soldiers shed their blood in your war(vietnam war). Son of bitches..

ring: I heard the ones that come to Korea to teach english are mostly low class poor people... And I have to hear such things from them?

dd: O-ho.. So you are making good money off of such fcked up country like Korea. But then, why do you people say in broken Korean "I love Korean women' and run around like dog in heat? I really want to know.

흥: These people are ignorant of 6.25 and don't understand the difference between us and other asian countries such as philipines in terms of economic growth. Compare us with European countries? How does that even make sense when starting line was different? And if your country is so great, then why do you live here?

adawd: Economic Aid? You mean wheat flour, you fckers. Since we paid all the debt we owed. In that case usa and japan also borrowed money from Korea. So is that aid from Korea then?

피식: It's true that we could get full support from USA because we faced off with a communist country during cold war era.
But you know what? Because of that Korea has been divided to north and south and we've spent tremendous amount of money as result. Even worse, whether we unify due to North Korea's collpase or not, there's so much risk involved.
Yes.. So called economic Aid from cocky USA? Do you really think that was the foundation of Korea's economic growth? I think the profit USA took from Korea being seperated isn't something to ignore. And what about unfair treatment from usa Korea had to endure?
I know there's no need of hypothesis in history but if you want to say Korea's growth was due to USA's economic aid, why don't you exempt all the opportunities that turned into USA's favor?
To be honest, even if Korea was located in Africa we would still live better than them. Since when do you think West passed East? If you think East was barbarian region, I suggest you re-study world history.

아이지: So why are you living in 32nd country? Go back to your 1st country.

부패국가: Right leadership 이명박 is an error..

213213: 5000 years of history is simply history. We were newborn independent state only 60 years ago. So we should be compared with those countries that were newborn independent states just like us. I mean, is China poor because their history is short?

z: You mean 32nd place in national income per head.

원조는 무슨 ㅋㅋㅋ: This is like japs saying they helped chosun since they built railroads. wtf

123: Why would you translate such gibberish? You stupid gesomoon translaters.

qwe: Good grief. Yankees without root are acting like they are s1ht just because they know english.

ssssss: What sons of bitches. So called advanced countries in europe? Do you really think you are rich because you were smart and deligent? You became rich by plundering other contries and colonizing them. Even those poor countries in africa you made them your colonies and made lots of money from it. Tell me if there's anybody from your country who's not into gambling, drugs or sex? Tell me. I bet most of you people will fall into at least one of those three categories. Do you have any decent people over there?

ㅇㄹㄴㄹ: At least our country didn't plunder other countries to earn money. But you plundered other countries in order to become rich. There's difference between lazyness and originality. You guys are so ignorant. If you came to Korea because you coudln't survive in your home country, would you please shut up? And you said China is going to pass Korea? Don't make me laugh.. Do you know how things are?
They said it was going to be sandwhich but actually it turned out on Korea's favor. The reasonable price and product, that's what appeals Korean product over theirs. Products of Japan are good quality but too expensive for it's quality. And products of China are cheap but poor in quality.. In the end, Korea win.

흥: Advanced ports? Our ports coudln't do it's job. Only after indepent from Japan we made ports that could do the job as ports. and We grew because of China? We began trading with China during 90s. Economic Aid from US? Which was less than half of half of what philpine received.

아이호: I understand Korea received economic aid... But what about us or european countries? Didn't they pluner other countries and used them? These guys are too loud for foreigners who works in Korea.

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Anyways rest of replies are about how Park Jung Hee is good or bad..
zzzzz
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the comments I've read so far complain about hordes of worthless parasitic low-class foreigners from imperialist countries descending on Korea and colonizing it, then giving their retarded opinions. And they're also sore about being described as 32nd in the world rather than 12th.

I think some of these people have seriously high blood pressure. They seem to love ranking everything, love talking about 'low class' and 'scum' in reference to ESL teachers, and are conscious of having been a victim of imperialism (understandably).

That said, if these comments are really representative, why do Koreans keep hiring foreigner teachers? I think, at least partly, this amount of vitriol is just par for the course on the Korean internet. On the other hand, it explains why the CRCs and AIDs tests came in.

Sample (translated freely, but quite possibly wrongly. Verify and correct for yourselves. Or check Korea beat.):

Quote:
Quote:
자격증도 없는 쓰레기 이에스엘들 아닌가
본국에 있으면 하류층 쓰레기로 살 인생주제에 ㅉㅉ


Aren't these the unqualified rubbish ESLers.
In their own countries they'd be living the crappy life of low class scum.

Quote:
다들 짱깨구만


They're all just 'JJangkkae'. [Not sure I understand this since that's a derogatory term for Chinese. Perhaps he's saying we're all just a bunch of 'gooks'.]

Quote:
32위 국가까지 건너와서 애들이나 가르치는 선진국산 루저 기생충들이 득시글하군


Looks like this bunch of loser parasites from developed countries, who crossed over to this number 32 nation to teach kids, are swarming together.

Quote:
다른나라들은 원조 안받나?
원조 받아도 우리나라 수준은 왜 안됨?


What, other countries never received any assistance?
We can't be developed now just because we received assistance in the past?

Quote:
흠...


Hmm...

Quote:
한국에서 돈버는 주제에
ㅄ들 ;;


Newbs making money in Korea... [I'm really not sure if 'newbs' is a correct way of translating '주제']

Quote:
얘네들 의견도 생각해 볼 여지는 있다고 생각하지만...
씨밸놈들 자칭 선진국이란 나라들이 근현대에 다른 나라 침략해서
식민지로 만들고 자원 있는 것 없는 것 다 수탈해서 지 들 살찌워서
지금도 잘 먹고 잘 사는 것들이 저런 얘기하니까 존내 짱난다. ㅅ ㅍ


These people think there's even room for them to discuss their opinions but...m*****f*****s from so-called advanced countries now invading other countries, like colonialists plundering resources if there are any, getting fat, even today guys like these are still here and still eating and living well and they have the sack to talk like that? It really pisses me off.

Quote:
12위가 언제 32위가 됐지?

???????


When did number 12 become number 13??????

Quote:
대단한건 맞다 그건 확실함

분명 대단하게 성장했으나. 요즘 인간쓰레기들이 그 성장치많큼 크게 오르고있다


[development of Korea] It's really great, that's right. That's for sure.

Obviously, we've been fantastically successful. Nowadays, the number of pieces of human garbage is growing as much as our success.

Quote:
최소한 식민지 착취해서 여태까지 경제성장한

유럽,미국,일본보다는 낫겠지

하여간 재한 외국인인지 나발인지

개뿔은 바로 니네같은 한국와서 잉여짓하는 ㅄ들이다


[I'm lost. Something about Europe, America, and Japan getting rich by exploiting colonies. Then something about people coming to Korea and blowing their own trumpet.]

Quote:
어이구 세계 1위의 강대국산 쓰레기들이 32위 나라에 와서 힘드시겠어


Oh those poor white trash coming from the first world to a country ranked 32nd! How hard it must be for them!
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinramyun wrote:
Seriously, you people really aren't helping yourselves... Laughing


After seeing the type of comments on Korean sites, not to mention Korean American sites like Asia's Finest, I'd have to say 'you people' really aren't helping yourselves either.
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OnTheOtherSide



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea translate this one: Legalize da Ganja mon! Seriously, the country would be much, much better.
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I'm no Picasso



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninja_Assasin wrote:
Ok here's Translation.

아나: Aren't they the ESL trash without certificates? They would've lived as third class people had they stayed in their home country.

.: I think they are chinks.

ㅇㅇ: It's filled with loser parasites from so called advanced country who came to 32nd country to teach.

다른나라들: Don't other countries get the economic aid as well? So why can't they be like us then?

ㄹㄹ: But they make money in Korea... Stupid people..

퍽킹: It's not bad to know their opinions .. but they claim they are from advanced country but didn't they invade other countries and colonized in order to become rich? To hear such opinion from likes of them really pisses me off.

asdf: I thought we were 12nd place. Since when did we become 32nd place?

ring: It is incredible. That's correct. Our country grew remarkably, but so are the human trashs in that site.

121: At least we are better than some countries in europe, usa and japan who colonized other countries in order to acheive economic growth.

ㅉㅉㅉ: Pathetic yankees. You know what? Even homeless people in Korea are more deligents than you lazy bums.

=_=: We shoudln't be arrogant but it's something we should be proud of. I'm not gonna deny we didn't get economic aid but what they are saying is ridiculous. After 6.25 the entire Korea peninsula was wasted and we were ranked 2nd poorest country in the world. But in just 60 years we became 14th in economy. If this is not a miracle, what is?
And there are other countries who also received economic aid. But in just half century we grew so much and as a Korean, it's something to be proud of.

ㅁ: It's because our mercanary soldiers shed their blood in your war(vietnam war). Son of bitches..

ring: I heard the ones that come to Korea to teach english are mostly low class poor people... And I have to hear such things from them?

dd: O-ho.. So you are making good money off of such fcked up country like Korea. But then, why do you people say in broken Korean "I love Korean women' and run around like dog in heat? I really want to know.

흥: These people are ignorant of 6.25 and don't understand the difference between us and other asian countries such as philipines in terms of economic growth. Compare us with European countries? How does that even make sense when starting line was different? And if your country is so great, then why do you live here?

adawd: Economic Aid? You mean wheat flour, you fckers. Since we paid all the debt we owed. In that case usa and japan also borrowed money from Korea. So is that aid from Korea then?

피식: It's true that we could get full support from USA because we faced off with a communist country during cold war era.
But you know what? Because of that Korea has been divided to north and south and we've spent tremendous amount of money as result. Even worse, whether we unify due to North Korea's collpase or not, there's so much risk involved.
Yes.. So called economic Aid from cocky USA? Do you really think that was the foundation of Korea's economic growth? I think the profit USA took from Korea being seperated isn't something to ignore. And what about unfair treatment from usa Korea had to endure?
I know there's no need of hypothesis in history but if you want to say Korea's growth was due to USA's economic aid, why don't you exempt all the opportunities that turned into USA's favor?
To be honest, even if Korea was located in Africa we would still live better than them. Since when do you think West passed East? If you think East was barbarian region, I suggest you re-study world history.

아이지: So why are you living in 32nd country? Go back to your 1st country.

부패국가: Right leadership 이명박 is an error..

213213: 5000 years of history is simply history. We were newborn independent state only 60 years ago. So we should be compared with those countries that were newborn independent states just like us. I mean, is China poor because their history is short?

z: You mean 32nd place in national income per head.

원조는 무슨 ㅋㅋㅋ: This is like japs saying they helped chosun since they built railroads. wtf

123: Why would you translate such gibberish? You stupid gesomoon translaters.

qwe: Good grief. Yankees without root are acting like they are s1ht just because they know english.

ssssss: What sons of bitches. So called advanced countries in europe? Do you really think you are rich because you were smart and deligent? You became rich by plundering other contries and colonizing them. Even those poor countries in africa you made them your colonies and made lots of money from it. Tell me if there's anybody from your country who's not into gambling, drugs or sex? Tell me. I bet most of you people will fall into at least one of those three categories. Do you have any decent people over there?

ㅇㄹㄴㄹ: At least our country didn't plunder other countries to earn money. But you plundered other countries in order to become rich. There's difference between lazyness and originality. You guys are so ignorant. If you came to Korea because you coudln't survive in your home country, would you please shut up? And you said China is going to pass Korea? Don't make me laugh.. Do you know how things are?
They said it was going to be sandwhich but actually it turned out on Korea's favor. The reasonable price and product, that's what appeals Korean product over theirs. Products of Japan are good quality but too expensive for it's quality. And products of China are cheap but poor in quality.. In the end, Korea win.

흥: Advanced ports? Our ports coudln't do it's job. Only after indepent from Japan we made ports that could do the job as ports. and We grew because of China? We began trading with China during 90s. Economic Aid from US? Which was less than half of half of what philpine received.

아이호: I understand Korea received economic aid... But what about us or european countries? Didn't they pluner other countries and used them? These guys are too loud for foreigners who works in Korea.

---------------------------------------------------------

Anyways rest of replies are about how Park Jung Hee is good or bad..
zzzzz


Most of this looks like fairly valid points to me.

Of course, you've got the odd comment about scum or whatever, but I'd say, so far, it's far less offensive than the average "Koreans (fill in the blank)" thread on Dave's.....
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shinramyun



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
shinramyun wrote:
Seriously, you people really aren't helping yourselves... Laughing


After seeing the type of comments on Korean sites, not to mention Korean American sites like Asia's Finest, I'd have to say 'you people' really aren't helping yourselves either.

Exactly which comments from korean sites? BTW, asiafinest is not korean-american site. It's more like racist asian-american troll site.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The youtube commentators on the Jonas brothers videos make more sense then these PC-Bang xenophobes.

Then again, Americans do not know the difference between North Korea and South Korea.... or even that there is a difference.

This reminds me of the joke, "they say the meek shall inherit the earth. But then the strong, will push them down to the ground and take it right back."
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinramyun wrote:
Privateer wrote:
shinramyun wrote:
Seriously, you people really aren't helping yourselves... Laughing


After seeing the type of comments on Korean sites, not to mention Korean American sites like Asia's Finest, I'd have to say 'you people' really aren't helping yourselves either.

Exactly which comments from korean sites? BTW, asiafinest is not korean-american site. It's more like racist asian-american troll site.


Er, for starters take a look at the list Ninja assassin translated. Some of them are fair, but there's a lot of very ignorant offensive remarks. Calling people 'human garbage' or 'scum' is disgusting, and 'sheebalnomdul'? - does anyone on Dave's refer to all Koreans with language that bad? And what about the one who thinks everyone in Western countries is into either gambling or drugs or sex (presumably meaning some kind of immoral sex, although the dimwitted xenophobe didn't spell that out)?

Take a good look.

Agree about asiafinest. It includes korean-americans though.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinramyun wrote:

Actually, most of koreans want those young students to stop going overseas to study because its too damn expansive.


Actually, I've heard numerous Korean parents say that a year studying abroad is cheaper than 3 years of high school level private education in Korea, and also yields far better results.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tell me if there's anybody from your country who's not into gambling, drugs or sex?


Same same.

Now let's all get paid/high/laid, how's about?.
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