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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Fox wrote: |
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| Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
I think the jist of the case for his resignation is:
1) His actions go directly against the values upon which he campaigned.
2) His use of public funds to indulge in his "banging" is misappropriation.
Combined, we end up with a man who simply has demonstrated he cannot be trusted with such an important office. If someone who worked for me used thousands of dollars in company funds to engage in adultery, that alone would warrant firing in my estimation, entirely independent of the former issue.
If the man had not campaigned based upon the values he campaigned upon, and he had not used public funds in order to engage in his actions, I'd agree it would be no big deal. |
He didn't misuse funds, according to the state.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7986472&page=1 |
Interesting, but I think we can both agree that the Governor's usage of funds being defended by people he himself appointed is not exactly reassuring. His quote, "Our conclusion is, is that was a decision that he made on his own, just to repay those funds for appearance's sake," is particularly suspicious.
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| This is just 1) gotcha politics and 2) part of the never ending campaign. |
Calling exposing someone as a textbook hypocrite and a systematic liar "just gotcha politics" is silly. Anything that involves the public demanding more honesty from their elected representative is a good thing. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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"NASHVILLE, Tenn. � The Tennessee state senator said he was opposed to sex outside marriage, but his private life told a different story: He was having an affair with his 22-year-old intern....
"As news of the affair broke last month, the 47-year-old Stanley dodged reporters and issued a statement calling himself a victim. The suburban Memphis lawmaker, a married father of two who taught Sunday school, said he wanted to set the record straight. But, he insisted, prosecutors had told him not to talk."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/ap_on_re_us/us_tenn_senator_scandal
Wow, is the GOP trying to set a record for hypocrisy? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
I think the jist of the case for his resignation is:
1) His actions go directly against the values upon which he campaigned.
2) His use of public funds to indulge in his "banging" is misappropriation.
Combined, we end up with a man who simply has demonstrated he cannot be trusted with such an important office. If someone who worked for me used thousands of dollars in company funds to engage in adultery, that alone would warrant firing in my estimation, entirely independent of the former issue.
If the man had not campaigned based upon the values he campaigned upon, and he had not used public funds in order to engage in his actions, I'd agree it would be no big deal. |
He didn't misuse funds, according to the state.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7986472&page=1 |
Interesting, but I think we can both agree that the Governor's usage of funds being defended by people he himself appointed is not exactly reassuring. His quote, "Our conclusion is, is that was a decision that he made on his own, just to repay those funds for appearance's sake," is particularly suspicious.
| mises wrote: |
| This is just 1) gotcha politics and 2) part of the never ending campaign. |
Calling exposing someone as a textbook hypocrite and a systematic liar "just gotcha politics" is silly. Anything that involves the public demanding more honesty from their elected representative is a good thing. |
We're going to have to agree to disagree. I'm not American so it doesn't matter. I don't know anything about him as a politician (his record, ideas etc) but cheating on his wife is a personal matter. I know men who are extremely effective at their jobs but wander from time to time, and men who suck at their jobs and are faithful. It just doesn't matter. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: |
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The point, Mises, is that he uses Christianity for his political purposes then turns around and breaks the Seventh Commandment like it's there to be broken. He's a classic case of political hypocrisy.
Most of the C Street gang are. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| It's political hypocrisy. Sure. Politicians are scum. Everywhere and always. Why Americans would be discussing this silly little event is completely above me. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Why? Because the U.S. was established on the separation of Church and State. But now we have these hypocrits who politicize their religious affiliations. It's all well and good to have such beliefs, but using them to pander for votes then betraying those same beliefs... well, that's the shame of it. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Kikomom wrote: |
| It's all well and good to have ... beliefs, but using them to pander for votes then betraying those same beliefs... well, that's the shame of it. |
Seems this sentence could apply perfectly to this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/policy/06insure.html?_r=1&hp
Which is worth conversation? |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Which is worth conversation? |
Well, since I have three health insurances (private retirement, medicare, and VA) and you're not American... I'll pick the one this topic is actually about. |
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