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[Epicurus]

[I'm no Picasso]

[Goon-Yang]

[OnTheOtherSide]

So uh..... what exactly happens in a gay bath house?

[Epicurus]

[soviet_man]

[benji1422]

OMG please say more. As I'm straight I'll never enter one of those places and I'm curious.

The closest I got to this experience you're describing is going to gay discos in New York in the early 90s.

[Goon-Yang]

[Shiktang]

I walked into a gay bar by mistake in Taegu. it was in the vicinity of the bus station near the train station. They were all youngish Korean guys cuddling on sofas. they invited me in, but on looking around I decided to give it a miss. Movies are also supposed to be a big part of the gay places or gay saunas.

Isn't there a park in seoul where all the gay females hang out. I've heard that every major city has gay female night extravaganza at least once a week.

[OnTheOtherSide]

I gotta say it. Sounds totally nasty. I have no problem with the idea of a gay bath house, but the fact that these guys are not using condoms as you say, that is absoutely crazy.

Places like this must be some of the leading contributers to the spread of various diseases.

Like I said, I have no problem with gay people. But why are they going unprotected? Retarded or what?

[I'm no Picasso]

[sjk1128]

I agree. Most Korean people are oblivious to the dangers of unprotected sex.... Either that or they're so fatalistic they think their choices have no influence on the outcome of their lives.

The government seems to take the stance of trying to keep out the foreigners with diseases. This doesn't work for obvious reasons. Kim Joe Q. goes to Thailand and contracts an STD, which he then gives his wife who passes it on to their daughter's ESL teacher: I think this progression is much more likely than the reverse. I mean, the three main forms of entertainment in Korea for Koreans are drinking, climbing mountains, and having sex - if not in that order of popularity. If you don't believe extramarital sex is on the list, look around in your dong and count the number of love motels that rent by the hour. These are found even in relatively rural areas of Korea. Hell, I've seen them on islands that are only accessible by boat.

And if Korea cancels their visas and deports the foreign prostitutes, pardon me, "entertainers" who have STDs rather than treating them, this is hypocritical since they usually will have contracted it HERE in Korea from a Korean man. After all, we know the hooker was tested when she came to Korea and at regular intervals since she arrived. How many STD tests do you think her thousands of customers have had on average?

[Epicurus]

the dangers of unprotected sex have been with us for a very very long time, yet the human race kept on copulating and survived, before we had a cure for all of them. (of course now we have HIV)

Sure some people died nasty deaths from untreated syphillis, and constant gonorrhea can't be enjoyable, but those are the breaks. I'm sure masturbation, aka onanism was around since Biblical days, as well as cold showers, I guess people still took their chances.

these days, the "dangers" tend to be vastly overblown, for public health safety consumption purposes.

Which is understandable. Ideally you want to "scare" the general populace in such instances.

It took years and years for true unprotected sex hiv stats to get out. Before they did, it was mass hysteria.

what is and isn't an acceptable or unacceptable risk is something everyone weighs for themselves.

and frankly, I'd bet the instances of bb vs condom laden intercourse even in "safety saturated" markets like the US - they'd surprise you.,

[sjk1128]

I guess the point I want to make to the OP or anyone else out there reading this is please, please, please, please, please do not think Korea is any "safer" for unsafe sex than anywhere else in the world. By all means, go have your fun, but think about what you are doing too.

And if you teach adults and it is possible to broach the subject in class discussions in a way that might be productive, please do.

Koreans have this odd knack for compartmentalizing and not allowing their public discussions to reflect the reality of their behavior - like the way they lead the world in abortions per capita but it is technically illegal, or the way they eat an estimated 2 million dogs a year (including strays and lost pets) but it is technically illegal and unregulated, or the way they require STD testing for foreigners and deny them visas or deport them if they are positive, but the majoirty of Koreans refuse to use condoms when they have sex themselves....

[robot]

OP, are you for real?

Or are you taking a shot at bt.petersen83 and/or the EV Boyz?

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