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Thailand is a land of smile ???
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Kwangjuchicken



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had my share of summer problems in Korea Shocked . Never been to Japan in Summer.
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Panda



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone really have to take a slogan that seriously.

All slogans are pretty silly, just like that one:

Seoul, soul of Asia.......... Confused
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Kwangjuchicken



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
Does anyone really have to take a slogan that seriously.

All slogans are pretty silly, just like that one:

Seoul, soul of Asia.......... Confused


I do kinda like "Finger Lickin' Good". Maybe because it is true. Embarassed
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Panda



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwangjuchicken wrote:

I do kinda like "Finger Lickin' Good". Maybe because it is true. Embarassed


Huh, are you talking about " 닭발 Lickin' Good" Laughing Laughing
Cuz I don't think you have any fingers to lick
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MissSeoul



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Thailand is a land of smile ??? Reply with quote

Joe Batts Arm wrote:
MissSeoul wrote:
We all know an American actor David Carradine was found dead in his hotel room wardrobe with a rope around his neck.

Now Auburn University student who was visiting Bankok while attending summer problem in Japan disappeared in Thailand. This news especially got my attention because I once was a student at Auburn University in Alabama and my future mother-in-law was a professor at there.

A couple years ago my brother lead 12 of his high school classmates to Thailand and Philippine trip, he told me this story...
Some of their group members try to find nice bar for some drink and they found one of bars had a sign that say " No grenade please ".
It wasn't gun, it was grenade !!!!!

I have 3 Thai friends here in America, I like them a lot, they are sweet, friendly and treat me real well.
A father of one of them murdered, this is 3rd Thai person who told me his/her father was murdered and I've only met 6 Thai in entire my life.

I've not met any korean whose relatives are murdered, not yet.

Thailand is a land of smile ???


Reading this and several other posts from Miss Seoul gives me pause to wonder about the level of ability necessary to get into and graduate from Auburn University!



Honestly English was not/is not my favorite subject.
My American fiance helped me to get into that school, his mom was PHd professor at there. I wasn't there too long because I got married and had to move to Texas. I've married to a man who was a wonderful and who also came from a wonderful/well educated family.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwangjuchicken wrote:
I have had my share of summer problems in Korea Shocked . Never been to Japan in Summer.


Sorry, I didn't check my spellings after I post.
I fixed Laughing It was summer program ( not summer problem ) Wink
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catman



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Some guys here are really sensitive about Thailand. Rolling Eyes
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Kwangjuchicken



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:
I have had my share of summer problems in Korea Shocked . Never been to Japan in Summer.


Sorry, I didn't check my spellings after I post.
I fixed Laughing It was summer program ( not summer problem ) Wink


I had a summer problem in my summer program today. Tom fell down and cut his arm. Lot's of blood Shocked . His mom siad he does that a lot not to worry. They called so she could pick him up. I got to meet his baby brother. Barely old enough to walk, but when they were leaving he turned around and did a very deep and formal bow. It was so cute.

I know why Tom had the accident. Today is 보름달.
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Kwangjuchicken



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:

I do kinda like "Finger Lickin' Good". Maybe because it is true. Embarassed


Huh, are you talking about " 닭발 Lickin' Good" Laughing Laughing
Cuz I don't think you have any fingers to lick


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bixlerscott



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the Thai smile as their form of saving face and not to be confused with happiness like many Western tourists interpret it to be though they can have a real sense of humor and laugh to a joke quite well. It's sorta like how Koreans save face by giggling in uncomfortable situations though it's harder to get the Koreans to exhibit a sense of humor to laugh out of something being funny unless it's elementary kids. For Thailand, their style of face saving just happened to be a hit with tourists, because it comes off as a really cool fairy tale adventure the first go around.

When you travel through the real Thailand on local buses far away from tourist centers, it's not smiling; just average working class barely scraping by dressed in tattered rags of mostly old black shirts. I didn't get any strange looks or feel threatened in non-touristy areas though, but it felt like a very poor 3rd world country. Don't try to short cut from ayutia to Aranyaprathet bordering Cambodia without routing through Bangkok unless you want to take slow local buses and get a glimpse of what Thailand is like for average Thai people. It looked very blighted, under developed, and quite hard living well below almost any poverty line you every knew unless having taken a good look around Cambodia which is quite rough around the edges. Was interesting to get the perspective of Thai living outside of tourism, but disappointing considering Thailand is so filthy rich in natural resources.

Like many of us, when you get experienced with Asian cultures, you can't help, but to see past the smiles in tourist areas and unfortunately, it becomes apparent LOS means, "Land of Scams." How many times did they try to over charge you on beers in food and bars and restaurants or over estimate your tab? And then get intimidating when you correct them on it? How many times were you rushed into ordering food when you just wanted to enjoy a beer first or take a 10 minute breather before ordering off the ridiculously long menu? I actually got kicked out of a Chiang Mai restaurant for politely asking 6 times in 2 minutes to be given more time upon being approached in a demanding rude manner to order food a half dozen times in just 2 minutes with the head waiter blocking my exit to pay a 200 baht sit down fee and threatening police action if I didn't pay. It was a German themed restaurant aside the night market. This was during my 5th and last time to the land of scams.

Overall, it's more positive than negative to travel Thailand though don't go too many times trying to relive the thrill of your 1st visit, but I believe living there could get risky should someone locally not like you or you get into a disagreement with someone and they know where you live. I've been to SEA 5 times over the past 3 years and fixing to head home from this adventure through Asia, but not without doing the entire ring of fire in South Asia first though. Would love to also do New Guinea, but that seems out of reach at this time.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:

I do kinda like "Finger Lickin' Good". Maybe because it is true. Embarassed


Huh, are you talking about " 닭발 Lickin' Good" Laughing Laughing
Cuz I don't think you have any fingers to lick


Did you eat my avatar? I do not know what happened to it. And who replaced it with that new one? It was not me.
Crying or Very sad
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MissSeoul



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bixlerscott wrote:


Like many of us, when you get experienced with Asian cultures, you can't help, but to see past the smiles in tourist areas and unfortunately, it becomes apparent LOS means, "Land of Scams." How many times did they try to over charge you on beers in food and bars and restaurants or over estimate your tab? And then get intimidating when you correct them on it? How many times were you rushed into ordering food when you just wanted to enjoy a beer first or take a 10 minute breather before ordering off the ridiculously long menu? I actually got kicked out of a Chiang Mai restaurant for politely asking 6 times in 2 minutes to be given more time upon being approached in a demanding rude manner to order food a half dozen times in just 2 minutes with the head waiter blocking my exit to pay a 200 baht sit down fee and threatening police action if I didn't pay. It was a German themed restaurant aside the night market. This was during my 5th and last time to the land of scams.


I don't know how many foreigners in Korean prison, but there are many foreigners in Thai prison. One time ABC TV showed bunch of foreigners in Thai prison.
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Seoul has in the past posted some very good gramatical sentences. I do at times think she (?) is pulling a fast one.

But regardless, the hospitality industry desires us to smile at the customers.

The customer is not always right, but its imperative that the hospitality industry makes them think they are. Marketing wise, Thailand is doing a great job.

Is all Thailand supposed to be representative of your desires? A desire for fun and laughter?

Seriously, what do you know of Thailand and its history? How much Allied blood was lost in Thailand? (I do mean all prisoners). They have a bridge you can visit?

The country has a dark past, its current life isn't so great either.

People are nice, but all the time? Shocked Your expectations seem a little too high. Look, enjoy your time there, be nice, eat healthy food.

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peter07



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing is, Thailand could do everything wrong in in its tourism industry and you'd STILL have hordes of people going there.

I'm not sure Korea would get more tourists to come even if it did everything right.
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TECO



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bixlerscott wrote:
I see the Thai smile as their form of saving face and not to be confused with happiness like many Western tourists interpret it to be though they can have a real sense of humor and laugh to a joke quite well. It's sorta like how Koreans save face by giggling in uncomfortable situations though it's harder to get the Koreans to exhibit a sense of humor to laugh out of something being funny unless it's elementary kids. For Thailand, their style of face saving just happened to be a hit with tourists, because it comes off as a really cool fairy tale adventure the first go around.

When you travel through the real Thailand on local buses far away from tourist centers, it's not smiling; just average working class barely scraping by dressed in tattered rags of mostly old black shirts. I didn't get any strange looks or feel threatened in non-touristy areas though, but it felt like a very poor 3rd world country. Don't try to short cut from ayutia to Aranyaprathet bordering Cambodia without routing through Bangkok unless you want to take slow local buses and get a glimpse of what Thailand is like for average Thai people. It looked very blighted, under developed, and quite hard living well below almost any poverty line you every knew unless having taken a good look around Cambodia which is quite rough around the edges. Was interesting to get the perspective of Thai living outside of tourism, but disappointing considering Thailand is so filthy rich in natural resources.

Like many of us, when you get experienced with Asian cultures, you can't help, but to see past the smiles in tourist areas and unfortunately, it becomes apparent LOS means, "Land of Scams." How many times did they try to over charge you on beers in food and bars and restaurants or over estimate your tab? And then get intimidating when you correct them on it? How many times were you rushed into ordering food when you just wanted to enjoy a beer first or take a 10 minute breather before ordering off the ridiculously long menu? I actually got kicked out of a Chiang Mai restaurant for politely asking 6 times in 2 minutes to be given more time upon being approached in a demanding rude manner to order food a half dozen times in just 2 minutes with the head waiter blocking my exit to pay a 200 baht sit down fee and threatening police action if I didn't pay. It was a German themed restaurant aside the night market. This was during my 5th and last time to the land of scams.

Overall, it's more positive than negative to travel Thailand though don't go too many times trying to relive the thrill of your 1st visit, but I believe living there could get risky should someone locally not like you or you get into a disagreement with someone and they know where you live. I've been to SEA 5 times over the past 3 years and fixing to head home from this adventure through Asia, but not without doing the entire ring of fire in South Asia first though. Would love to also do New Guinea, but that seems out of reach at this time.


This is a good post and I think a good summary of how I've also come to see Thai people and the culture over the years.

I enjoy the sun, beaches and food, but really dislike the overall attitudes of the Thais towards visitors.
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