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stayfocused



Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

js99 wrote:

When did being in my late-30's become old?


dude you just showed your hand... and you're old. i hope i refine my game enough or just give up and get married by the time i can't get by on looks alone. Twisted Evil
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mssinmymind



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a great thread and really has shown alot of retrospect. As I was reading it I started thinking...How many of you old timers thought about the future back then in the late 80s to early 90s and have now saved up a pretty little nest egg for your selves...Or was it mostly, living for the day back then more so than now? Just curious, not asking which of you have the biggest Twisted Evil Wink
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Bronski



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where perms among men more popular three years ago, or have I just stopped noticing them? Didn't Park Jisung have that haircut for a bit. I recall see the "Shaggy Dandy" with an accompanying picture on the outside of a hair place. "Middle-aged" was also an option.

Interesting stories everyone. Thanks!


JongnoGuru wrote:



Newbies -- 5 years & under

Young-timers -- 6~10 years

Old-timers -- 10~15 years

Old old-timers -- over 15 years


I realize I have no authority in this, but shouldn't a year in the middle of nowhere be worth twice as much as a year in some place like Gangnam?
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
Newbies -- 5 years & under

Young-timers -- 6~10 years

Old-timers -- 10~15 years

Old old-timers -- over 15 years


Super old old-timers -- over 30 years ago. Yup, I first came to Korea sometime back in the 70s. Though to be fair, I was just a kid and was in Korea because my dad was in the army and was stationed around Seoul. I was a superstar back then, before all the unwashed masses of stoners, manwhores, losers, and drunks started showing up, forever destroying the image of foreigners. Razz
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
Newbies -- 5 years & under

Young-timers -- 6~10 years

Old-timers -- 10~15 years

Old old-timers -- over 15 years


Super old old-timers -- over 30 years ago. Yup, I first came to Korea sometime back in the 70s. Though to be fair, I was just a kid and was in Korea because my dad was in the army and was stationed around Seoul. I was a superstar back then, before all the unwashed masses of stoners, manwhores, losers, and drunks started showing up, forever destroying the image of foreigners. Razz


Must have been fun being the first stoner/manwhore/loser/drunk in town at the time, eh?
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
madoka wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
Newbies -- 5 years & under

Young-timers -- 6~10 years

Old-timers -- 10~15 years

Old old-timers -- over 15 years


Super old old-timers -- over 30 years ago. Yup, I first came to Korea sometime back in the 70s. Though to be fair, I was just a kid and was in Korea because my dad was in the army and was stationed around Seoul. I was a superstar back then, before all the unwashed masses of stoners, manwhores, losers, and drunks started showing up, forever destroying the image of foreigners. Razz


Must have been fun being the first stoner/manwhore/loser/drunk in town at the time, eh?

C'mon now, bassexpander. No way is madoka a stoner or drunk. Stoners and drunks make way more interesting posts.
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Bronski



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
Newbies -- 5 years & under

Young-timers -- 6~10 years

Old-timers -- 10~15 years

Old old-timers -- over 15 years


Super old old-timers -- over 30 years ago. Yup, I first came to Korea sometime back in the 70s. Though to be fair, I was just a kid and was in Korea because my dad was in the army and was stationed around Seoul. I was a superstar back then, before all the unwashed masses of stoners, manwhores, losers, and drunks started showing up, forever destroying the image of foreigners. Razz


Um... I was in Costa Rica in 1997. That doesn't mean I've been in Costa Rica for 12 years.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
Newbies -- 5 years & under

Young-timers -- 6~10 years

Old-timers -- 10~15 years

Old old-timers -- over 15 years


Super old old-timers -- over 30 years ago. Yup, I first came to Korea sometime back in the 70s. Though to be fair, I was just a kid and was in Korea because my dad was in the army and was stationed around Seoul. I was a superstar back then, before all the unwashed masses of stoners, manwhores, losers, and drunks started showing up, forever destroying the image of foreigners. Razz


I know someone who's been here for almost 40 years, too... wait.. uh... yeah 40 years in a couple of years' time!! He came with the peace corps. Only difference is he stayed ever since and hasn't gone back...
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ewok



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the changes I've seen have all been material. Koreans have more money to throw around. But deep down, they continue to mistrust foreigners, believe they are racially superior, and still think they are the worlds greates victims, thus justifying all of the above.

When I came, korean children hated japan, beleived foreigners were 'babo' and rudely pointed out at foreigners in public.

Now, all those children are adults, and a new crop has spawned. These new ones, -who were not even alive when I fist came- behave exactly the same. The teachers, parents and other adults do their best to perpetuate the teachings of xemophobia, inferiority/superiority-complex, and hate for Japan.

nothing has changed. nothing will ever change. They are still peasants. Peasants with GPS-DMB-MMS- Videocalling phones, but still peasants.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first large waves of immigration happened in the UK in the 1950's........

...............it took until the 1980's for the majority of British people to learn how to behave and interact naturally with people of different race. Over 30 years. It took a lot of work by the media, anti-racist groups and government laws to educate the British to respect foreigners and not treat them as inferiors.

I wonder how long that will take in Korea.
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Bronski



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think Korea will ever become nearly as multicultural as the UK? Or even 10% not ethnically Korean?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bronski wrote:
Do you think Korea will ever become nearly as multicultural as the UK? Or even 10% not ethnically Korean?


Of course, no.

But the Korean news reported a couple of weeks ago that there are now over 1,000,000 foreigners living in Korea......yet I still get inane smiles and giggles when I try to talk to a store clerk or such like.

How long will it take for Koreans to stop thinking of a foreigner in their midst as a wild and crazy event?
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daegudavid, on another thread, wrote:
I took a bus through Inchon on the way to the airport and saw three dildo shops, and a guy fixing phone wires without harnesses - just balancing on the wires like a Disney cartoon.

Fewer dildo shops back in the day, as I recall. Though certainly our fair share of high-wire capering.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewok wrote:
the changes I've seen have all been material. Koreans have more money to throw around. But deep down, they continue to mistrust foreigners, believe they are racially superior, and still think they are the worlds greates victims, thus justifying all of the above.

When I came, korean children hated japan, beleived foreigners were 'babo' and rudely pointed out at foreigners in public.

Now, all those children are adults, and a new crop has spawned. These new ones, -who were not even alive when I fist came- behave exactly the same. The teachers, parents and other adults do their best to perpetuate the teachings of xemophobia, inferiority/superiority-complex, and hate for Japan.

nothing has changed. nothing will ever change. They are still peasants. Peasants with GPS-DMB-MMS- Videocalling phones, but still peasants.


Back in the 90s I remember seeing news reports of Korean employers physically beating workers from "poor countries" because they can. I wonder if that still happens now.
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Bronski



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Bronski wrote:
Do you think Korea will ever become nearly as multicultural as the UK? Or even 10% not ethnically Korean?


Of course, no.

But the Korean news reported a couple of weeks ago that there are now over 1,000,000 foreigners living in Korea......yet I still get inane smiles and giggles when I try to talk to a store clerk or such like.

How long will it take for Koreans to stop thinking of a foreigner in their midst as a wild and crazy event?


Good point. I didn't mean to sound snarky, by the way.
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