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bourquetheman
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon
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 Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: Anyones camp got busted? |
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A camp that is on the same campus but is operated by a different outfit got 3 teachers busted on Friday. They were literally taken away like prisoners, no time to get luggage, nothing. Put in the immigration van and taken away. At immigration they were strip searched (I kid you not) once given their phonecall they were put in prison clothing and taken to a detention center, (again I kid you not). Are they guilty? Sure, but this seems a bit extreme to me. The company supposedly has to pay a 20 million won fine for each teacher, no idea how much the teachers themselves wil have to pay.
It also makes me wonder why people take the chances at camps like this. Of the 6 camps I've done I think over 3 or 4 of them have had immigration come and check. The real kicker is that our director asked why (politely of course as all our paperwork was in order) immigration had come to visit. They said they had received a phonecall. Everyone is betting money that it was from one of the 2 teachers fired during the 1st week of the camp. Again it was the other group but we saw them each night so we heard all the crap going down at theirs. The company was foolish to hire people who didn't have the proper visa and the teachers were also to blame for agreeing to teach. Any other camps get busted? I'm curious. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Anyones camp got busted? |
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| bourquetheman wrote: |
A camp that is on the same campus but is operated by a different outfit got 3 teachers busted on Friday. They were literally taken away like prisoners, no time to get luggage, nothing. Put in the immigration van and taken away. At immigration they were strip searched (I kid you not) once given their phonecall they were put in prison clothing and taken to a detention center, (again I kid you not). Are they guilty? Sure, but this seems a bit extreme to me. The company supposedly has to pay a 20 million won fine for each teacher, no idea how much the teachers themselves wil have to pay.
It also makes me wonder why people take the chances at camps like this. Of the 6 camps I've done I think over 3 or 4 of them have had immigration come and check. The real kicker is that our director asked why (politely of course as all our paperwork was in order) immigration had come to visit. They said they had received a phonecall. Everyone is betting money that it was from one of the 2 teachers fired during the 1st week of the camp. Again it was the other group but we saw them each night so we heard all the crap going down at theirs. The company was foolish to hire people who didn't have the proper visa and the teachers were also to blame for agreeing to teach. Any other camps get busted? I'm curious. |
Not I, but hopefully a lot of these people posting about working illegally will realize that you CAN get busted. If they are still willing to take the chance.... don't say they weren't warned. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Where did this happen? Which campus? |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Yes, more information, please.
BTW, it's not always disgruntled employees who make those calls to Immigration. Competing hagwons often rat each other out to Immigration.  |
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| South Korea is the absolute worst for ESL expats, plain and simple. "North Korea Lite." |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting. The camp I am working at now was the first one not to have immigration come knocking. The funny thing is, only 5 out of 10 teachers were legal. The other 5 were E-2 without permission. |
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Flash Ipanema
Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: from flash ipanema's friend |
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this is flash's friend
she was one of the ones that got busted in the camp
she's looking to see if anyone has any information on whether she will be able to get back into the country once they make her leave
she would like to go to tokyo to visit a friend and then come back to korea to get her stuff, visit a bank, go to the pension office etc which immigration is telling her she can't do before she leaves
any help or information would be EXTREMELY helpful
thanks! |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: Re: from flash ipanema's friend |
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| Flash Ipanema wrote: |
this is flash's friend
she was one of the ones that got busted in the camp
she's looking to see if anyone has any information on whether she will be able to get back into the country once they make her leave
she would like to go to tokyo to visit a friend and then come back to korea to get her stuff, visit a bank, go to the pension office etc which immigration is telling her she can't do before she leaves
any help or information would be EXTREMELY helpful
thanks! |
The only thing I found about anyone was someone who was caught had to pay the fine, and had to remain in jail until they were deported. Then, they were denied re-entry to Korea even on a tourist visa. Maybe someone knows something more hopeful for your friend, but it looks bleak. If you are someone she can trust, you might want to try to take care of what you can. Like getting her stuff out of her apartment and her bank (atm withdraw? unless she has it set up for international transfers). |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:13 am Post subject: Re: from flash ipanema's friend |
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| Carla wrote: |
| Flash Ipanema wrote: |
this is flash's friend
she was one of the ones that got busted in the camp
she's looking to see if anyone has any information on whether she will be able to get back into the country once they make her leave
she would like to go to tokyo to visit a friend and then come back to korea to get her stuff, visit a bank, go to the pension office etc which immigration is telling her she can't do before she leaves
any help or information would be EXTREMELY helpful
thanks! |
The only thing I found about anyone was someone who was caught had to pay the fine, and had to remain in jail until they were deported. Then, they were denied re-entry to Korea even on a tourist visa. Maybe someone knows something more hopeful for your friend, but it looks bleak. If you are someone she can trust, you might want to try to take care of what you can. Like getting her stuff out of her apartment and her bank (atm withdraw? unless she has it set up for international transfers). |
I found something that says she might be allowed to come back in 2 years, but I know that's not what your friend is looking for. But if there is a number out there (2 years), then I doubt she will be allowed to do a visa run and come back on a tourist visa. |
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curlygirl
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Two people I know have just been busted. I'm gutted as the camp director called me (I'd worked for them before) and asked if I could find them a replacement teacher ASAP as they needed to fire someone who just wasn't working out. I set my friend up with the job and then the jerk that got fired turned round and dobbed the camp into immi. My 2 friends were dragged down to Suwon immi a couple of days ago and I don't know what's happened to them since then.
What kind of excremental being would dob in their fellows like that? |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| So some lawbreakers that take jobs away from legal teachers got busted!!! Hooray!! |
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okayden223
Joined: 05 Jun 2009
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| A guy I know got busted for teaching illegally back in 2001. He got deported back to Canada and I'm not sure how long he was banned for but basically he wrote a formal letter of apology to the government and he was able to come back. He's married to a Korean though so that may have had some bearing on things. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| okayden223 wrote: |
| A guy I know got busted for teaching illegally back in 2001. He got deported back to Canada and I'm not sure how long he was banned for but basically he wrote a formal letter of apology to the government and he was able to come back. He's married to a Korean though so that may have had some bearing on things. |
Ya, countries will let you make ammends when it comes to families if things are too serious. I don't know how nice they would be if he had got caught again..... |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| okayden223 wrote: |
| A guy I know got busted for teaching illegally back in 2001. He got deported back to Canada and I'm not sure how long he was banned for but basically he wrote a formal letter of apology to the government and he was able to come back. He's married to a Korean though so that may have had some bearing on things. |
So, he was saved by the short heirs. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| curlygirl wrote: |
Two people I know have just been busted. I'm gutted as the camp director called me (I'd worked for them before) and asked if I could find them a replacement teacher ASAP as they needed to fire someone who just wasn't working out. I set my friend up with the job and then the jerk that got fired turned round and dobbed the camp into immi. My 2 friends were dragged down to Suwon immi a couple of days ago and I don't know what's happened to them since then.
What kind of excremental being would dob in their fellows like that? |
Think about what you are saying:
A legally entitled person gets a camp job, gets fired and "scabs" or illegal workers are brought in to take their place.
Would you just sit back and do nothing?
And how are people who replace you your "fellows"?
I would have called immigration too.
I found it was hard to score a good camp job despite my years of experience because illegal teachers will work for less, and camp directors don't really care. |
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