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Fox
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Unnaturally? Some of us go by our middle names. |
Yes, but the President doesn't. Nor do most people in America. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Rufus:
Are you just obtuse or willfully oblivious to reality? Which is it? During his swearing in ceremony Obama chose to include his middle name. Furthermore, I'm not calling attention to his middle name to make an allusion to Saddam but, as I have repeatedly said and you've ignored, to make a point about how many of us reacted to the constant disparaging use of "W" and "Dubya" in reference to the previous president. I said I would refer to Obama as "Hussein" when I felt he was being petty, as he has been quite a bit as of late. Got it now, or do you need the anime edition? |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it is one of his names, but he isn't referred to by anyone as 'Hussein Obama'. You obviously think Hussein has some sort of negative connotation. And if you're being petty to get back at people calling Bush 'W'? Fine, be petty.
Anyway, perhaps some links in your next diatribe? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I don't think he's a hack. He's a gifted politician. Its just his gifts don't extend to governance.
What has he ever really governed? The answer to this during the primaries was always "Hillary doesn't have any governing experience, either." That was perfectly true, but it doesn't save Obama, does it?
The other answer was that Lincoln didn't have any governing experience either. Also true! But it doesn't by itself make Obama Lincoln, does it? (Why this argument wasn't extended to Hillary, well . . .)
The Harvard Law Review. He did a great job governing that I hear. |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
| Yes, it is one of his names, but he isn't referred to by anyone as 'Hussein Obama'. |
Except of course by the loony birthers who insist that Obama is a Muslim. I'm not sure why Steve wants to identify himself with those morons. |
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MollyBloom
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
| Fully it's Barack Hussein Obama II; Barack Obama, or Obama would traditionally be used. So why highlight unnaturally his middle name, because people called Hussein just aren't good guys? |
I think it's because presidents have always been referred to with their middle names, or with at least an initial (if they had one...all the pres. missing didn't have a middle name or initial):
6. John Quincy Adams
8. Martin Van Buren
9. William Henry Harrison
11. James Knox Polk
18. Hiram Ulysses Simpson Grant
19. Rutherford Birchard Hayes
20. James Abram Garfield
21. Chester Alan Arthur
22. Stephen Grover Cleveland
26. William Howard Taft
27. Thomas Woodrow Wilson
28. Warren Gamaliel Harding
29. John Calvin Coolidge
30. Herbert Clark Hoover
31. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
32. Harry S. Truman
33. Dwight David Eisenhower
34. John Fitzgerald Kennedy
35. Lyndon Baines Johnson
36. Richard Milhous Nixon
37. Gerald Rudolph Ford
38. James Earl Carter, Jr.
39. Ronald Wilson Reagan
40. George Herbert Walker Bush
41. William Jefferson Clinton
42. George Walker Bush
43. Barack Hussein Obama Junior
So, when Obama's middle name became something shaky because of his ties to Islam, the left/Dems didn't want to refer to it BEFORE the election. Then, when he became president, they were all proud and all of a sudden wanted to call him by that. It was sort of hiding it, then not hiding it sort of deal. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Molly:
Not to nit-pick but it was more often "JFK" or "John F. Kennedy" and "Richard M. Nixon." Bush, Jr. was actually our 43rd President, but who's counting?
Rufus still doesn't get it and I don't have time to sketch the anime version. |
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