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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:
D.D. wrote:

It it idiots who label people as real Dr. and fake Dr. that make me want to cry.

I just have a few points- there is much to study to know about this subject. That means doing the research. With very little knowledge why do people give ideas on vaccinations on an esl website. I guess esl teachers are real Drs and can give health info on vaccinations.


I could ask my father about this if you like? Oh wait, he is a GP and more likely to be able to call you out.

You should have spent the money you wasted on becoming a chiro on becoming a proper medical doctor. You might, then, have a vaild and the correct opinion on the matter. Stop scaremongering, you'll only encourage people to avoid getting vaccinations that could save their life.


So you pass on the same drug selling ideas that your father based his life on. No worries if he was ignorant and believed in what he was doing. It's the ones that know better and still pass out the drugs that scare me. Medicine is not is not all it is marketed to be and it is really marketed well with billions of dollars spent just for add and fear campaigns. We all have our beliefs and as long as we know they are just beliefs all is well. What scares me about medicine is they act is if their beliefs are the truth and then millions of believers just blindly believe.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:


So you pass on the same drug selling ideas that your father based his life on. No worries if he was ignorant and believed in what he was doing. It's the ones that know better and still pass out the drugs that scare me. Medicine is not is not all it is marketed to be and it is really marketed well with billions of dollars spent just for add and fear campaigns. We all have our beliefs and as long as we know they are just beliefs all is well. What scares me about medicine is they act is if their beliefs are the truth and then millions of believers just blindly believe.


I really really really really hope you get something which would have been preventable with a vaccination. You might then become a bit more aware that you're the ignorant one.

Their beliefs are true insofar that they believe they can treat ailment 'x' by doing a, b and c. When a patient becomes better that's the proof of their belief. Have you actually studied medicine or a science? Show me any evidence that chiro acts in the same manner.
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D.D.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two science degrees here my friend. I have known two children that died after vaccinations. I also had a patient that could not run after his vaccinations. I also have 1000s of such stories told to me from fellow alternative health practitioners as well as nurses. I like the poll that that guy set up. By showing only two options it shows he thinks in polarities which is a true sign of ignorance. People who think in black and white really need to work on their brains.

http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/ these stupid Drs opinions don't count I guess.

http://www.vaclib.org/links/vaxlinks.htm
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iammac2002



Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Location: 'n Beter plek.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Two science degrees here my friend. I have known two children that died after vaccinations. I also had a patient that could not run after his vaccinations. I also have 1000s of such stories told to me from fellow alternative health practitioners as well as nurses. I like the poll that that guy set up. By showing only two options it shows he thinks in polarities which is a true sign of ignorance. People who think in black and white really need to work on their brains.

http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/ these stupid Drs opinions don't count I guess.

http://www.vaclib.org/links/vaxlinks.htm


Actually, it was supposed to have 3 options, but seems like the last one got eaten by a gremlin... But it has lots of space to air your view. Oh, so you would vote in the poll if you had a gray area answer? Strange!
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Two science degrees here my friend. I have known two children that died after vaccinations. I also had a patient that could not run after his vaccinations. I also have 1000s of such stories told to me from fellow alternative health practitioners as well as nurses. I like the poll that that guy set up. By showing only two options it shows he thinks in polarities which is a true sign of ignorance. People who think in black and white really need to work on their brains.

http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/ these stupid Drs opinions don't count I guess.

http://www.vaclib.org/links/vaxlinks.htm


If you do have two science degrees you'd know a little something about evidence and substantation of claims. Chiro-croc crap about the dangers of vaccinations does not stand up at all to any kind of testing. How discredited chiro is as a 'medical' treatment suggests you are talking arse.

Two whole children! WOW! How many millions (possibly even billions) of lives have been saved due to vaccinations?
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okayden223



Joined: 05 Jun 2009
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a yellow fever vaccination at a hospital in the Yonsei area. It was pretty cheap. I was going to visit a friend in a country where it is prevalent so it was required. I understand the arguments against vaccinations, which is why I don't bother with flu shots, but there are some things you just can't leave to chance. Hepatitis and tetanus are two that come to mind. D.D. obviously there are horror stories out there and you may indeed have thousands of instances of vaccinations gone wrong to show as proof of your viewpoint. However there have been millions of vaccinations given without serious complications.
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iammac2002



Joined: 12 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know many kids who have died after getting vaccinated.

They got vaccinated when they were toddlers.

One died after hanging herself. Another died after playing on top of a train and getting electrocuted. Another died after jumping off a building at university. Another died in a car crash.

One of them ate too much, got morbidly obese, and couldn't run anymore.

Damn those vaccinations!
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iammac2002



Joined: 12 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"In reality, childhood infections such as measles, whooping cough, chicken pox etc, are not caused by germs, but by the toxic conditions of the body, a condition known as Toxaemia."


If chicken pox is not caused by germs, then explain to me how I got it the second time round as an adult? All normal people know that once you've had chicken pox, you're supposed to be immune to it. And we all know that chicken pox is highly contagious.

The real doctor said that it's because the blacks in Africa aren't exposed to chicken pox as children. But when they go to university and get into contact with other races, they get it then. And since it's a different strain of chicken pox, other people can get it again in adulthood.

And if you're wondering why I'm talking about blacks in Africa, it's relevant since I am a white African, and contracted the second bout in university, in Africa.
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