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noright85
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: Offered as sweet placement but... |
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I have a problem.
I have enough teaching experience in Canada that I know I can land a job in Korea. The problem I'm facing is that I could teach in Seoul at a private facility and enjoy the social scene and all that it has to offer but I'm guessing my salary would be in the 2.3--2.5 million won range. I enjoy meeting people, hanging out and looking at new experiences on my time off.
Recently, my recruiter posed to me a position at a Language Institute where I would be making close to 2.8-3.0 million won/month. However, the town is small and from what I hear there isn't much to do. I'd have 35 paid vacation days, I'd work about 45 hours a week and I would have small class sizes (I think)
Both provide housing, airfare and all that good stuff.
What would you do? |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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I would take the job in Seoul over the small town job.
Why? Because my happiness is worth way more than 500,000 won. Some people have different priorities. I guess you've got to decide on yours. |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Perceptioncheck wrote: |
I would take the job in Seoul over the small town job.
Why? Because my happiness is worth way more than 500,000 won. Some people have different priorities. I guess you've got to decide on yours. |
I agree. Plus the 45 hrs per week sounds like too much work to me! Granted there's a lot of vacation time, but still. I would prefer a good work-life balance as they say. |
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Tux

Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Location: The smallest one room ever in Guri City
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Offered as sweet placement but... |
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noright85 wrote: |
I have a problem.
I'd work about 45 hours a week and I would have small class sizes (I think)
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45 Teaching hours/week?
That would be brutal. I do 22 at a PS and that's plenty. I guess the money is nice but they will make you work for it. The vacation is awesome though, as long as they keep their end of the deal and give it to you. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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45 hours per week is awful.
Go for a job with lower hours and average pay. That leaves you open to make more money on your own time, or in OT. That's where the better money is made. |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Location: Korea sparkling
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:01 am Post subject: |
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it really depends how many of the 45 hours you teach.
I seriously doubt the OP is teaching 45 classes a week. That would be hell and 2.8 to 3m would not be worth it. I'll say this though..if you take the sticks you'll be satisfied with the money but be very lonely. |
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SweetTea
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: |
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OMFG 2.3 million won? that's 0.2 million won more than I'm getting. sweet deal. Take the job in Seoul if you like the social scene! But it's polluted and crowded and people are rude and all the other bad stuff about cities... Are you teaching adults or children? |
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Conrad B Hart
Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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It depends on whether going out and getting pissed regularly is what you consider as being a 'new experience', as I'm sure you could do that regularly in Seoul. But 35 days paid vacation does sound good, you could do some decent travelling in that time and possibly gain better quality 'new experiences'? Only you can truly answer that. |
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laoshihao

Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Location: I'll take the ROK, Alex, because that's where my stuff is.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: Priorities |
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What are your priorities? If it's saving money then the job in the sticks will be better. Less to do so less to spend money on. If you want a social life go to a bigger city to enjoy what it has to offer. If the sticks job isn't too far away you could always take a bus or train into Seoul on the weekends and live in the sticks during the week. Facebook and Skype are excellent and free ways to keep up with friends in other places. |
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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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45 hours a week! Prepare to slash your wrists.
I teach 20 hours a week for 2.7 no housing and thats already enough for me.
Working in the country is pretty sad for going out and actually doing stuff. Then again not every where in Seoul is good too. Seoul is a massive sprawled out city. Do some research and get a job in a nice area. Just because it's in Seoul doesn't mean it will be good. Plenty of crap areas in Seoul. If you like nice parks, scenery and a generally cleaner area, go Jamsil. If you want to drink and go to bars maybe Hapjeong.
Unless you choose an area you know. It's kind of like rolling the dice and see what you get. Sometimes you can get a country area which is not that bad but had frequent express busses that only take maybe 20-30 minutes to a good place in the city. |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Private schools are more highly respected in Korean society than public service. In terms of social prestige. It's the money that matters not ideology. Sadly... |
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Tux

Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Location: The smallest one room ever in Guri City
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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winterfall wrote: |
Private schools are more highly respected in Korean society than public service. |
Yeah...nah.
Only in the case that a regular school is private for example a private middle or high school. Hagwons, the other type of private school, are not held in high regard but necessary if kids want to get into the top universities.
The OP is applying for an institute position, not a private school.
The order of the food chain generally goes like this.
University
Public School
Death by strangulation
Hagwon |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Tux wrote: |
winterfall wrote: |
Private schools are more highly respected in Korean society than public service. |
Yeah...nah.
Only in the case that a regular school is private for example a private middle or high school. Hagwons, the other type of private school, are not held in high regard but necessary if kids want to get into the top universities.
The OP is applying for an institute position, not a private school.
The order of the food chain generally goes like this.
University
Public School
Death by strangulation
Hagwon |
Duly noted for future reference.
I've been getting a lot of flak for going public. Graduated from a top 50 school. Korean's tend to see me as not living up to my potential. Even my boss is asking me why I didn't go private. It's demoralizing. lol |
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Tux

Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Location: The smallest one room ever in Guri City
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:50 am Post subject: |
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winterfall wrote: |
Tux wrote: |
winterfall wrote: |
Private schools are more highly respected in Korean society than public service. |
Yeah...nah.
Only in the case that a regular school is private for example a private middle or high school. Hagwons, the other type of private school, are not held in high regard but necessary if kids want to get into the top universities.
The OP is applying for an institute position, not a private school.
The order of the food chain generally goes like this.
University
Public School
Death by strangulation
Hagwon |
Duly noted for future reference.
I've been getting a lot of flak for going public. Graduated from a top 50 school. Korean's tend to see me as not living up to my potential. Even my boss is asking me why I didn't go private. It's demoralizing. lol |
I guess I was being a little over the top Winterfall. I think some hagwons are ok but for me personally, I have heard too many horror stories on Daves to ever go near one.
The way I see it, if you want to stay in Korea for 3-5 years then I suggest going public. With your first hagwon contract, you an make more money than your average PS worker, but they work you harder to make that extra 200-300k per month. In the long run after about four years experience you can expect to make 2.6 or above for only 22 hours a week. That's what I'm aiming for as I will be staying in Korea for a while.
Someone earlier mentioned that if you work PS you have more time to do private tutoring so I guess that's an option if you can get the work.
Stick at it bro. PS is reliable and worth it. I've never not been paid and always get what I'm entitled to at the end of a contract. You won't ever get screwed out of your completion bonus or airfare. With PS there's no risk of the business ever going under which is reassuring to me. |
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amanley206253
Joined: 09 Aug 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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It's just a matter of deciding what kind of Korean experience you'll want. And if teaching will wholly be the direction of your personal goals for a career, think of the advantages of a smaller school, in a smaller city, might have over a metropolitan environment, or the latter to the former. The money is definitely a perk, because 500,000 is significant if you're teaching and saving, or paying off debt.
Even more, Korea's transit system keeps everything in relative touch, and getting away on a weekend from a smaller town, to somewhere more lively, will always be an option to consider.  |
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