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Xanadu123



Joined: 01 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Current Job Market Reply with quote

A few recruiters are telling me that currently it is no longer an employees market but the schools'.

They say there are a higher number of new applicants with a smaller amount of job openings.

There advice is to be open to take something different from your preferences and that they are being selective in choosing which teachers they will send over.

Whats the verdict from people in the know?
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter what sector your in. If you don't have experience. You can't be choosey. Take the first offer that seems reasonable. And after a year or two than you can be picky.

Especially now with so many foreign teachers coming over. The newbies don't have carte blanche anymore
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Times are this bad. Never thought I'd see the day. Flocks of unemployed people from 1st world nations rushing headlong to a developing nation for a job. Is this the beginning of the death of the west?
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why schools and bosses are playing a harder game that can seem downright unfair at times. I was called last week to teach during my vacation for no extra pay, but I declined. On Monday of this week, the 2nd week of my Summer vacation, I was called to be moved into another apartment today at 2PM, but I did get them to agree to let me off next week in lieu of these troubles not allowing me to do what I want to do. Go to NPS office and then enjoy myself in Seoul doing things like going to the national museum and eating good food as well as just exploring the neighborhoods. My Korean friend with a masters of engineering was called back to work on his 1st day of vacation on his tech support job so things are getting bad when it comes to jobs. He's got a masters working for 20,000/hour in a cubicle with few benefits. He's supposed to have 1 week of vacation a year, but they took that from him with no plan to reschedule it, but will pay him 1 extra week pay. It's not easy for the Koreans either trying to eek a career unless they're Ivy league grads or related to someone in high places just like back home.

My co-teachers in recent months have been asking me what I'm going to do after I leave Korea. When I said, "get a job," they replied with a surprised, "really?" They know what's going on.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what's REALLY funny though? These bartenders I know over here NEVER seem to be out of work. They wo0uld probably laugh at unemployed losers like me....I swear, darn it, in the next few years I am going to bartending academy. No matter how hard times are, people will always need a drink...or I'll go to culinary school. I'm sick of this sad, crappy world. I wish the end of time would come soon. I',m so tired of being a single female worrying about supporting myself....sick of worrying about money and jobs, money and jobs....geez... Rolling Eyes
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asmith wrote:
Times are this bad. Never thought I'd see the day. Flocks of unemployed people from 1st world nations rushing headlong to a developing nation for a job. Is this the beginning of the death of the west?
Korea's per capita income is $27,647. It is a 1st world nation.
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
asmith wrote:
Times are this bad. Never thought I'd see the day. Flocks of unemployed people from 1st world nations rushing headlong to a developing nation for a job. Is this the beginning of the death of the west?
Korea's per capita income is $27,647. It is a 1st world nation.


It might have a first world economy. But it ain't a 1st world nation.

The average wage here is just below 20,000 dollars. That's not too hot.
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asmith wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
asmith wrote:
Times are this bad. Never thought I'd see the day. Flocks of unemployed people from 1st world nations rushing headlong to a developing nation for a job. Is this the beginning of the death of the west?
Korea's per capita income is $27,647. It is a 1st world nation.


It might have a first world economy. But it ain't a 1st world nation.

The average wage here is just below 20,000 dollars. That's not too hot.
South Korea is a developed nation with an advanced economy.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
asmith wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
asmith wrote:
Times are this bad. Never thought I'd see the day. Flocks of unemployed people from 1st world nations rushing headlong to a developing nation for a job. Is this the beginning of the death of the west?
Korea's per capita income is $27,647. It is a 1st world nation.


It might have a first world economy. But it ain't a 1st world nation.

The average wage here is just below 20,000 dollars. That's not too hot.
South Korea is a developed nation with an advanced economy.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country


I respectfully disagree. I remember reading in the Korean Herald that the government is worried because median household income has dipped below 20 grand.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa needs to invent some new toys for the elves to build.
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Xanadu123



Joined: 01 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

winterfall wrote:
Doesn't matter what sector your in. If you don't have experience. You can't be choosey. Take the first offer that seems reasonable. And after a year or two than you can be picky.

Especially now with so many foreign teachers coming over. The newbies don't have carte blanche anymore


I have experience working with children like swim instructing and teaching kids to read and write. However this experience is not ESL.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
You know what's REALLY funny though? These bartenders I know over here NEVER seem to be out of work. They wo0uld probably laugh at unemployed losers like me....I swear, darn it, in the next few years I am going to bartending academy. No matter how hard times are, people will always need a drink...or I'll go to culinary school. I'm sick of this sad, crappy world. I wish the end of time would come soon. I',m so tired of being a single female worrying about supporting myself....sick of worrying about money and jobs, money and jobs....geez... Rolling Eyes


Ya, the drug dealers around my friends' shops never seem to be out of money either. But I don't think they're accepting applications... nevermind.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I respectfully disagree. I remember reading in the Korean Herald that the government is worried because median household income has dipped below 20 grand.


For one, there is more to being a first world nation than household income. Secondly, the way a household is defined in the West is not the same as in Korea. A K-Household may have 3 generations of family within the same place.

Korea is at the trailing edge of the first-world I would say, but the difference between ranks in these things is pretty small.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just not worth coming here right now. Earning potential is going down, and if you have to get stuck in a crap job offered by a recruiter, given all that can go wrong, then it will likely cost you more to come than you'd make staying home.

If you can't find what you want from overseas, don't come.
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Just not worth coming here right now. Earning potential is going down, and if you have to get stuck in a crap job offered by a recruiter, given all that can go wrong, then it will likely cost you more to come than you'd make staying home.

If you can't find what you want from overseas, don't come.


You're getting scared like me. Aren't you? Just admit it.
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