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sas
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 Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: Specific GEPIK public school |
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Is it normal for a recruiter to offer a GEPIK position in a specific school? It's just that i've read a lot about it being luck of the draw for applicants with regards to their placement location.
Apologies if this has been asked multiple times before, I've tried the search function but it doesn't seem to enjoy searching for more than one word at a time. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: specific school on offer |
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Usually not-so-prime locations, like schools in the rural area, will be offered by name through a recruiter. GEPIK won't admit that any of their schools are undesirable.
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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If you apply directly with GEPIK, then you have a school assigned to you. I just signed a contract yesterday that has the following:
"Contract is made for the purpose of setting forth the terms and conditions of employment for GEPIK teachers who will teach English at a(n) elementary, middle, or high school in Gyeonggi Province."
I don't know if this is simply a template or if they specifically want to get across the teacher will be "assigned" to one of these.
If you work with a recruiter, then they are working with specific schools. In that case, you should know the location and be able to choose where you want to work. If a recruiter says you have to take it, then that just means they are probably sticking you with a bad school or can't get another teacher. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: specific school on offer |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Usually, not so prime locations, like schools in the rural area, will be offered by name, through a recruiter. GEPIK won't admit that any of their schools are undesirable. |
that's how I got my school.
one of the better decision I've ever made. |
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Korussian
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: specific school on offer |
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| Epicurus wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| Usually, not so prime locations, like schools in the rural area, will be offered by name, through a recruiter. GEPIK won't admit that any of their schools are undesirable. |
that's how I got my school.
one of the better decision I've ever made. |
Seconded! |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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oh btw.. I have a great relationship with GEPIK too.
they don't bother with me and I don't bother with them (other than attending their required orientations, workshops, etc)
OP one suggestion. Ask for the e-mail address of the current waygook there and he/she can give you the REAL 411 on what's going down.
I only accepted my position after my predecessor confirmed the "great stuff" (in terms of it being better than standard contract) I was told by recruiter and even handler in interview. |
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sas
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the replies.
| Epicurus wrote: |
oh btw.. I have a great relationship with GEPIK too.
they don't bother with me and I don't bother with them (other than attending their required orientations, workshops, etc)
OP one suggestion. Ask for the e-mail address of the current waygook there and he/she can give you the REAL 411 on what's going down.
I only accepted my position after my predecessor confirmed the "great stuff" (in terms of it being better than standard contract) I was told by recruiter and even handler in interview. |
I'm waiting to receive the contact details of the current teacher but apparently it's summer vacation so the recruiter hasn't had contact back from the school yet. Just out of interest, how did they better the standard contract for you? |
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Chet Wautlands
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I got my job that way. It's going great! |
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passport220
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| It is on of the advantages of using a recruiter for a GEPIK position. I was given a choice of 6 schools to pick from. The one I picked was the one I got. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| sas wrote: |
Thank you for the replies.
| Epicurus wrote: |
oh btw.. I have a great relationship with GEPIK too.
they don't bother with me and I don't bother with them (other than attending their required orientations, workshops, etc)
OP one suggestion. Ask for the e-mail address of the current waygook there and he/she can give you the REAL 411 on what's going down.
I only accepted my position after my predecessor confirmed the "great stuff" (in terms of it being better than standard contract) I was told by recruiter and even handler in interview. |
I'm waiting to receive the contact details of the current teacher but apparently it's summer vacation so the recruiter hasn't had contact back from the school yet. Just out of interest, how did they better the standard contract for you? |
we can go into details on PM if you'd like. I'm still under the same contract, but there are some important aspects that are a huge improvement over some other people on the same contract (all gepik people work under gepik contract)
among things that vary from school to school for e.g.
length of summer and winter camps
weekly teaching hours (not everyone works 22)
deskwarming, (or not) which effectively increases vacation time
location of appt, aka how close to school
these are all questions you should ask of the current NET, though the most important one is how is the principal and vp? how are his co-teachers and how is he/she treated at school. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| sas wrote: |
Thank you for the replies.
| Epicurus wrote: |
oh btw.. I have a great relationship with GEPIK too.
they don't bother with me and I don't bother with them (other than attending their required orientations, workshops, etc)
OP one suggestion. Ask for the e-mail address of the current waygook there and he/she can give you the REAL 411 on what's going down.
I only accepted my position after my predecessor confirmed the "great stuff" (in terms of it being better than standard contract) I was told by recruiter and even handler in interview. |
I'm waiting to receive the contact details of the current teacher but apparently it's summer vacation so the recruiter hasn't had contact back from the school yet. Just out of interest, how did they better the standard contract for you? |
btw that info won't likely be provided by the recruiter but by the coordinator/handler at the school.
typically the way it works is you express interest to the recruiter and they set up an interview with the Korean coteacher responsible for the NETs at the school. She or he (but usually a she) will interview you on the phone and you guys can exchange e-mails, etc.
if you don't sound like a retard, she'll likely then take your resume to the principal and give the principal her approval of you via interview. The principal will then give yea/nay and you'll have an offer of employment.
(might work faster or differently with some schools) |
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sas
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Epicurus wrote: |
we can go into details on PM if you'd like. I'm still under the same contract, but there are some important aspects that are a huge improvement over some other people on the same contract (all gepik people work under gepik contract)
among things that vary from school to school for e.g.
length of summer and winter camps
weekly teaching hours (not everyone works 22)
deskwarming, (or not) which effectively increases vacation time
location of appt, aka how close to school
these are all questions you should ask of the current NET, though the most important one is how is the principal and vp? how are his co-teachers and how is he/she treated at school. |
PM would be great thanks, I don't have enough posts to do that myself.
As for the possible benefits you've highlighted, I had prepared myself for the worst but will definitely ask the handler for some more info. Do you know if the schools are back from vacation yet?
I had quite a brief interview and was offered the job after the handler spoke with the principal and vp etc. As I am new to this process I felt very unsure that the whole thing was legit, hence my original post. Thanks for the replies, I feel much better about the situation. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| sas wrote: |
| Epicurus wrote: |
we can go into details on PM if you'd like. I'm still under the same contract, but there are some important aspects that are a huge improvement over some other people on the same contract (all gepik people work under gepik contract)
among things that vary from school to school for e.g.
length of summer and winter camps
weekly teaching hours (not everyone works 22)
deskwarming, (or not) which effectively increases vacation time
location of appt, aka how close to school
these are all questions you should ask of the current NET, though the most important one is how is the principal and vp? how are his co-teachers and how is he/she treated at school. |
PM would be great thanks, I don't have enough posts to do that myself.
As for the possible benefits you've highlighted, I had prepared myself for the worst but will definitely ask the handler for some more info. Do you know if the schools are back from vacation yet?
I had quite a brief interview and was offered the job after the handler spoke with the principal and vp etc. As I am new to this process I felt very unsure that the whole thing was legit, hence my original post. Thanks for the replies, I feel much better about the situation. |
most gepik schools will open once again around Aug. 24.
btw, is this an elementary, middle or HS?
I don't think you'd be out of line asking the handler the following questions b4 accepting anything:
a) describe the appt a bit, and how far away is it from the school?
describe the town/city you'll be in, etc.
b) amount of class hours per week (yes it's 22, but some/many work slightly less
c) camp length for summer and winter camps
d) deskwarming when school is closed and you're not doing camps
but obviously focus on the less hardcore questions first, like appt, describe the school, what are you looking for out of your native teacher.. blah blah blah
you can try working in those questions, but if you don't, most definitely hammer away at the current NET regarding them.
I'll send you a pm. good luck!
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Rory_Calhoun27
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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one fact I only see mentioned here sometimes is if you are the FIRST English teacher at your school- as I was.
and given so many other upheavals at the school, I dont think they should have even HAD one, at least at the time- in the first 8 months:
- principal changes
- school SHRINKS
-2/3 of the teachers leave (due to the shrinking)
-the floor with the English room is renovated to include ADULT EDUCATION- no English for them (at the time)
So Im pretty sure that this was a UNIQUE instance, and I have to wonder if all those changes came about because I was there, and the school got the money.
When factoring in the problems with the coteacher and GEPIK's "handsoff way of addressing the problem, Im glad I moved on. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Rory_Calhoun27 wrote: |
one fact I only see mentioned here sometimes is if you are the FIRST English teacher at your school- as I was.
and given so many other upheavals at the school, I dont think they should have even HAD one, at least at the time- in the first 8 months:
- principal changes
- school SHRINKS
-2/3 of the teachers leave (due to the shrinking)
-the floor with the English room is renovated to include ADULT EDUCATION- no English for them (at the time)
So Im pretty sure that this was a UNIQUE instance, and I have to wonder if all those changes came about because I was there, and the school got the money.
When factoring in the problems with the coteacher and GEPIK's "handsoff way of addressing the problem, Im glad I moved on. |
yes being the first NET creates its own unique circumstances and challenges.
what people should understand is if they butt heads with their coteachers, gepik will almost assuredly NEVER interfere with that kind of stuff.
Only if your contract guidelines are being breached (eggregiously) will Dain Bae et all get involved.
this is why I always recommend insisting on getting contact info of current teacher if at all possible. |
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