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Miss a day, suffer a 2-day deduction. That legal?

 
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maymicrosoftburn



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:43 am    Post subject: Miss a day, suffer a 2-day deduction. That legal? Reply with quote

Folks, I've recently had to tell an employer that he or she cannot dock me 2 days' pay for missing for missing 1 day (regardless of whether there's notification -- in my case there was).

1) Is this true?

2) Can someone cite the chapter and article from a Korean legal doc?
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Miss a day, suffer a 2-day deduction. That legal? Reply with quote

maymicrosoftburn wrote:
Folks, I've recently had to tell an employer that he or she cannot dock me 2 days' pay for missing for missing 1 day (regardless of whether there's notification -- in my case there was).

1) Is this true?

2) Can someone cite the chapter and article from a Korean legal doc?


I'm not sure about the legal side of it, but what is in your contract?

If it's not in your contract, then I'm positive they can't. If it is in your contract, then it depends on if it is legal. If it is legal, you're out of luck. If it's not legal, than that part of your contract is void and they can't do it. Just hang on, I'm sure "Those Who Know Things" will be on in a short while to answer your question more specifically. Very Happy
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iggyb



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my reading of the Korean Labor Law, no.

Google for Korea Labor Standards Act. You can get the pdf version in English. Make sure it is from a site that has the updated version.

You can try at this address though I got my copy from the government website which I can't find quickly at this moment.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12960127/Korean-Labor-Standards-Act-amended-in-2007

From my reading of certain provisions --- an employer can't dock you more than 1/2 a day's pay. There is also a percentage limit in how much you can lose as a penalty per month.

Also, for every month you work without missing a day, you get 1 leave day. Parts of the law say the leave day can be taken solely on the discretion of the employee. Parts say that it can't interfere with the vital operations of the business. It seems to me to create a gray area in which the Labor Board would be the judge in specific cases brought before it on this issue.

I believe, if you have worked more than a month without being out, your boss legally can't penalize you at all, because you have built up leave days.

At minimum, the law seems clear that your boss can only take 1/2 a day's pay.
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iggyb wrote:
[...]

You can try at this address though I got my copy from the government website which I can't find quickly at this moment.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12960127/Korean-Labor-Standards-Act-amended-in-2007

[...]


Unfortunately, both that version and the one on the government's website are direct scans from paper, so you can't search through them.

I used OCR Software to convert the government's PDF into a version that you can search. You can get it here.

Best of luck!
http://www.dmitryvolokhov.com

[Edit: I just did a search of that document. Article 20 and Article 21 might help with regard to the employer forcing a "penalty" on you for "breaking" your contract. Of course, that refers to a bigger blow to the contract than just missing a day.]
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a contract from HiEnglish.
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iggyb



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the link. I was trying to get a pdf conversion program.

Shouldn't that link be a sticky note at this forum?
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Miss a day, suffer a 2-day deduction. That legal? Reply with quote

maymicrosoftburn wrote:
an employer that he or she cannot dock me 2 days' pay for missing for missing 1 day

Illegal. It's called a penalty clause in your contract. Such a penalty is not enforceable. Call Labor at 1350 for verification.
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