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cwflaneur
Joined: 04 Aug 2009
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 Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:37 am Post subject: Irani president blames foreign student for election protests |
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classic example of West-scapegoating by corrupt Islamist fundamentalism:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-academic17-2009aug17,0,49573.story
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Reporting from Beirut - Iranian authorities released a French researcher from Tehran's Evin Prison into the custody of diplomats Sunday, even as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad blamed the West for the mass protests that followed his disputed reelection in June.
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"You have openly meddled in Iran's domestic affairs," Ahmadinejad said of the West in a televised speech Sunday to religious scholars. "With your immature thoughts you believed you could damage the establishment of the Islamic Republic. But the Iranian nation does not care about you. The noise that you are creating in the world is not a sign of your strength but of your weakness and downfall."
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Ahmadinejad, it's a sign of your weakness and immaturity that you rigged an election and when thousands of people who are sick of you rise up in protest, you blame a handful of foreign grad students. It's also a sign of your eventual downfall. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Are the foreign students responsible for the rapes too?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090818/wl_nm/us_iran
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TEHRAN (Reuters) � Opposition leader Mirhossein Mousavi accused "establishment agents" of raping and abusing detainees imprisoned after Iran's June presidential vote and urged the powerful clerics to do their duty and speak out.
"They (authorities) asked those who were abused and raped in prisons, to present four witnesses (to prove their claim)... Those who committed the crimes were the establishment's agents," Mousavi said in a letter to reformist leader Mehdi Karoubi, the reformist mowjcamp.com website reported. |
Well, that's completely reasonable. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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We have seen this again and again in recent world history:
(1) The LBJ and Nixon administrations, for example, preferred to blame Moscow and Hanoi for allegedly orchestrating the domestic antiwar movt over acknowledging that some Americans dissented re: the Vietnam war;
(2) The Castro dictatorship, the Allende administration, and the Chavez regime all insisted that all domestic criticism and opposition merely betrayed foreign conspiracies -- something the American left continues to accept wholly uncritically for their own political motives; and
(3) The Chavez regime has particularly embraced this line of thinking today as it and its grass-roots supporters continue to pummel opposition media, including individual attacks against journalists.
This represents ugliness all around; and a preference to live in a stubborn, paranoid world of denial rather than embracing plurality in political expression and all its consequences.
Comes now Tehran, they, the embassy assaulters, the blackmailers, and the interventionists, who have so self-righteously claimed moral superiority, etc., etc., etc., for how long...? |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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We have seen this again and again in recent world history:
(1) The LBJ and Nixon administrations, for example, preferred to blame Moscow and Hanoi for allegedly orchestrating the domestic antiwar movt over acknowledging that some Americans dissented re: the Vietnam war; |
Yes, and similar to them also attributing blame to the KGB for fomenting domestic doubt about the validity of the Warren Report, as if Americans were unable to question it on their own. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Except that the KGB actually did run black propaganda ops against the United States, expressly aiming to influence public opinion, throughout the Cold War, especially with respect to JFK's assassination. What exactly do you think Moscow's propaganda and psych warfare people were doing during these decades, anyway? Have you read any of the post-Cold War literature on Soviet foreign relations?
But I am not going to get into this with you here, Bacasper. Go back to your kookie JFK thread... |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Except that Americans on their own really did and do question the Warren Report, and CIA really did instruct its assets to label critics and people who have exposed evidence of the role of the Central Intelligence Agency as instruments and dupes of the KGB. Was the major Italian daily Paese Sera a dupe, or even a conduit of the KGB, as CIA called it?
Yes, continue this at the very serious JFK thread for anyone trying to understand the political context of current events. |
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