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[Homer]

Kiwi,

You really need to take a step back and take a deep breath man.

Where in my post did I mention Korea, or that Korea was ok as far as meat producing and that others were not?
Here is a hint: nowhere.

What I said (and what others said too in this very thread kiwi) was that if someone is going to get outraged about dogs being slaughtered for meat then they should reserve the same level of compassion for cows and poultry.

Have you visited a slaughterhouse back home kiwi? I have on a few occasions.
The killing methods migth seem more humane but this is more then compensated for by the method used to raise and fatten the cattle and poultry before they are slaughtered.
Cows are not killed painlessly either, they are sent up a pen to the slaughter room where they are then killed one by one by a bolt gun to the head. While this is not torture in itself it becomes so as the cattle in the pen behind the slaughter room beging to grow nervous at the smell of death (these were the words of the man who owned the place).
Before being slaughtered, cattle is often tube fed while living in a pen thats barely large enough for it to move. Not to mention the hormones they get injected with on some of the more "modern" farms.
The same goes for chickens who are raised in a pen that houses hundreds of them and where they are fattened up so that will sell better at the market.
So, for animals being slaughtered for food its a question of picking the poison. However, dogs, being "cute" and "loyal" earn the sympathy and outrage of westerners when they are slaughtered for food, this at the same time as one might say "Man those people slaughtereing dogs are bad, hey lets go for steak man".

This is not a Korea thing kiwi, except for the fact that dogs are indeed eaten here. Its more a question of being consistant in your views and of not applying different standards to dogs because of culturally tinted perspectives. If one if going to rise up and take a stance against dogs being slaughtered then they, by simple logic, have to allow for the same symptahy to apply to other animals that are killed for food.

As an example, most people that eat lobster want it as fresh as possible so they go to the market, buy them live from the tank and then toss them in boiling water...very humane.
How about sharks that are basically mutilated because some people want shark fin soup. The fishermen here catch the shark, slice off its fin and release it back in the ocean where of course it tends to die in short order.
This should also earn the sympathy of those crying for dogs....

[hojucandy]

[TheUrbanMyth]

Come on people, this article was written by Seoul Searching. This was the very newspaper/website that was threating to sue this very site and Dave Sperling to boot for some less than complimentary remarks. Why is it when SS writes about Westerners being beaten up in Seoul, it is branded as lies, yet another article by these very folk gets accepted as truth? Both have a negative slant towards Korea, which is a common thread in SS's articles.

[komtengi]

Is this where the Helios incident origniated??

[Juggertha]

hehe, i'm banned from their forums so i guess i'm not able to follow up on any discussion with them. lol

[kiwiboy_nz_99]

Just because the SS site had done some dodgy things in the past doesn't mean that cats and dogs are not treated badly here. I know cats are boiled alive, I've seen it myself, unfortunately I didn't have a camera. I've also been told by several Koreans that dogs are beated and burned alive to make the meat taste better. Do you have to see this on film before you believe it? In that case you truly define the term apologist.

[hojucandy]

[komtengi]

[kiwiboy_nz_99]

[hojucandy]

[Seoultrader]

One of my Sudanese clients once invited me to Khartoum for a week and asked if I was interested in going to the south of the country (the Muslim majority in the north rules the nation) with him and taking part in a "special feast," part of which was the meat of killed rebels. Gives new meaning to the term "dark meat" (nah, I didn't go...I was on a diet).

[HardyandTiny]

do koreans also keep cows and chickens at home and never take them outside for a walk or fresh air? is it because of the lack of space? is it legal to keep a cow in your apartment?

[shaun k]

i read an in-depth article a few years ago about the egg industry in america. it seems the chickens for the big egg producers are uncomfortable with their confined environment and they peck each other to death from the stress (i guess chickens need a little elbow room), so the common practice was to just remove their beaks and pack them in and let them squeeze out the eggs...it was only until some animal protection groups got on mcdonalds to buy only from farms who allowed beaks (mcdonalds is the largest buyer of eggs in world, so others naturally followed them), that farmers started changing their ways.

there is nothing going on in korea more revolting than the image of thousands of beakless packed in chicken slurping up seeds with their lolling tongues. a few boiled cats cannot compare.

[Barking Mad Lord Snapcase]

[Homer]

Barking,

Was that suppose to be a point?