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Chat With Beauties girl in hot water over book dissing Korea
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like another case of Koreans can dish it but can't take it.
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Yaya



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She has no business being on that show, as several of the guests are fugly. She ain't fugly but she sure is FAR from a beauty.

Maybe if they keep letting peeps like her in, they have to rename the show Mutant Suda.
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Tundra_Creature



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, not matter what, you're always gonna upset people one way or another.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time this show was in the news it was an episode ripping on foreign guys in Korea.

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2009/07/since-those-foreign-girls-put-out-so.html

I wonder how much of that was scripted by the male writers. The show's premise is fluffing the, um, egos of the male panelists, writers, and viewers.

But as soon as a foreigner opens her mouth against Korea, the netizens come out.
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shinramyun



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
sounds like another case of Koreans can dish it but can't take it.

Except this thread has nothing do with what koreans can take or not.
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess she's never been to Tokyo if she thinks the Seoul subway system is crowded. So much for a "well-educated" European.
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littlelisa



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
How is Korea difficult for a vegetarian? I think it's quite easy, much easier than many other countries. I can name at least 20 different dishes (not including the 100's of side dishes) that are vegetarian.


Please don't forget that almost any soup-type thing has a meat or fish or seafood stock, that kimchi often has fish paste in it, and that countless things that seem vegetarian are really not.

Korea is not impossible to be vegetarian in, but it is definitely not "much easier than many other countries". Although I guess it depends on which countries.

There are a lot of vegetarian restaurants around and of course you can cook your own food, and I have enough Korean to order things without meat, etc. But ask a vegetarian, and none of them consider Korea to be an easy place to be vegetarian in.
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crescent



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
red_devil wrote:
How is Korea difficult for a vegetarian? I think it's quite easy, much easier than many other countries. I can name at least 20 different dishes (not including the 100's of side dishes) that are vegetarian.


Please don't forget that almost any soup-type thing has a meat or fish or seafood stock, that kimchi often has fish paste in it, and that countless things that seem vegetarian are really not.

Korea is not impossible to be vegetarian in, but it is definitely not "much easier than many other countries". Although I guess it depends on which countries.

There are a lot of vegetarian restaurants around and of course you can cook your own food, and I have enough Korean to order things without meat, etc. But ask a vegetarian, and none of them consider Korea to be an easy place to be vegetarian in.

Outside of Seoul, there are NOT many veggie restaurants.

Even trying to order a Kimbab without ham is a challenge.
"Kimbab han-jul ju-se-yo, Hem bek-uh-yo"
-"Ye."

And then she puts in the ham.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:

Outside of Seoul, there are NOT many veggie restaurants.

Even trying to order a Kimbab without ham is a challenge.
"Kimbab han-jul ju-se-yo, Hem bek-uh-yo"
-"Ye."

And then she puts in the ham.


You should be using 없이 for "without" if you want to remove something from a dish.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
littlelisa wrote:
red_devil wrote:
How is Korea difficult for a vegetarian? I think it's quite easy, much easier than many other countries. I can name at least 20 different dishes (not including the 100's of side dishes) that are vegetarian.


Please don't forget that almost any soup-type thing has a meat or fish or seafood stock, that kimchi often has fish paste in it, and that countless things that seem vegetarian are really not.

Korea is not impossible to be vegetarian in, but it is definitely not "much easier than many other countries". Although I guess it depends on which countries.

There are a lot of vegetarian restaurants around and of course you can cook your own food, and I have enough Korean to order things without meat, etc. But ask a vegetarian, and none of them consider Korea to be an easy place to be vegetarian in.

Outside of Seoul, there are NOT many veggie restaurants.

Even trying to order a Kimbab without ham is a challenge.
"Kimbab han-jul ju-se-yo, Hem bek-uh-yo"
-"Ye."

And then she puts in the ham.


Not sure about outside of Seoul but at any Kimbab Jeong-guk just say "Geunyang Kimbap" and that's regular standard Kimbap which doesn't have meat.

Here's a list of vegetarian foods. Vegetarian's have it tough almost anywhere, my point is Korea is little if any different and the Korean diet being largely agricultural based as well as having roots in Buddhism will be easier to live off of vegetables than in many other countries including western countries. ALSO it depends on how strict a vegetarian you are. If you are very strict and won't eat any animal products or flesh of any kind including eggs, shellfish, or seafood, than you're going to trouble anywhere it's not a "Korean sux" thing.

Links to Vegetarian restaurants in Seoul:
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Link 5
"Vegetarian" keyword search on Seoul Tourism site

Korean dishes (you can order or make yourself):

SOUPS
kimchi chiggae (sometimes has meat so ask no meat just in case)
Sundubu
Dwaenjang-chiggae
Ddeok-guk
Gyeran-tang
Kongnamul-guk
Mandu-guk (use vegetable mandu)
Miyeok-guk
Oinaeng-guk
Naengkongguksu
Ssalguksu

STEWS
Cheonggukjang-jjiggae (can substitute tofu for minced beef)
Sundubu-jjigae

NOODLES
Bibimnaemyun
Mul-naemyun (may have slice of beef as garnish)
Chop jae
Jajang-myun (has pork at restaurant, but you can buy your own w/o at grocery store)
Bibimguksu
Guksu (sometimes served with slice of egg on top)
Jjol-myeon
Udong

RICE
Dolsot Bibimbap (usually has egg, maybe pork/beef)
Juk
Bokgeumbap
Kongnamulbap
Ogokbap
Yakbap
Yeongyangsotbap (can make without chicken)

OTHER
Kimchi dubu
Tteokbokki

SIDE DISHES (just a few)
Chwi Namul
Doraji Namul
Gaji Namul
Gosari Namul
Hobak Namul
Kong Namul
Sukju Namul

STIR FRY
Beoseot Bokkeum
Kimchi Bokkeum


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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Chat with Beauties Reply with quote

Intrepid wrote:
How is that bad English? He didn't capitalize "i"? This is the web, where "I would of did it" and "I know a great amount of people that..." are standard parlance.

And I agree with Red Devil on this one: over generalizations.

Much as I hate misuda, that is. Chat with beauties, perhaps. Chat with smarties (as someone on this site has beat me to, and I love the phrase), not.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2100063&highlight=#2100063
link to the other misuda thread a while back.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
crescent wrote:

Outside of Seoul, there are NOT many veggie restaurants.

Even trying to order a Kimbab without ham is a challenge.
"Kimbab han-jul ju-se-yo, Hem bek-uh-yo"
-"Ye."

And then she puts in the ham.


You should be using 없이 for "without" if you want to remove something from a dish.


You can also say "Bae-goh" (take out)
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
crescent wrote:
littlelisa wrote:
red_devil wrote:
How is Korea difficult for a vegetarian? I think it's quite easy, much easier than many other countries. I can name at least 20 different dishes (not including the 100's of side dishes) that are vegetarian.


Please don't forget that almost any soup-type thing has a meat or fish or seafood stock, that kimchi often has fish paste in it, and that countless things that seem vegetarian are really not.

Korea is not impossible to be vegetarian in, but it is definitely not "much easier than many other countries". Although I guess it depends on which countries.

There are a lot of vegetarian restaurants around and of course you can cook your own food, and I have enough Korean to order things without meat, etc. But ask a vegetarian, and none of them consider Korea to be an easy place to be vegetarian in.

Outside of Seoul, there are NOT many veggie restaurants.

Even trying to order a Kimbab without ham is a challenge.
"Kimbab han-jul ju-se-yo, Hem bek-uh-yo"
-"Ye."

And then she puts in the ham.


Not sure about outside of Seoul but at any Kimbab Jeong-guk just say "Geunyang Kimbap" and that's regular standard Kimbap which doesn't have meat.

Here's a list of vegetarian foods. Vegetarian's have it tough almost anywhere, my point is Korea is little if any different and the Korean diet being largely agricultural based as well as having roots in Buddhism will be easier to live off of vegetables than in many other countries including western countries. ALSO it depends on how strict a vegetarian you are. If you are very strict and won't eat any animal products or flesh of any kind including eggs, shellfish, or seafood, than you're going to trouble anywhere it's not a "Korean sux" thing.

Links to Vegetarian restaurants in Seoul:
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Link 5
"Vegetarian" keyword search on Seoul Tourism site

Korean dishes (you can order or make yourself):

SOUPS
kimchi chiggae (sometimes has meat so ask no meat just in case) pork or tuna
Sundubu shellfish
Dwaenjang-chiggae often has shellfish
Ddeok-guk
Gyeran-tang
Kongnamul-guk
Mandu-guk (use vegetable mandu)
Miyeok-guk
Oinaeng-guk
Naengkongguksu
Ssalguksu

STEWS
Cheonggukjang-jjiggae (can substitute tofu for minced beef)
Sundubu-jjigae

NOODLES
Bibimnaemyun
Mul-naemyun (sometimes has beef)
Chop jae
Jajang-myun has pork
Bibimguksu
Guksu (sometimes served with slice of egg on top)
Jjol-myeon
Udong

RICE
Dolsot Bibimbap egg and often beef or pork
Juk
Bokgeumbap
Kongnamulbap
Ogokbap
Yakbap
Yeongyangsotbap (can make without chicken)

OTHER
Kimchi dubu
Tteokbokki

SIDE DISHES (just a few)
Chwi Namul
Doraji Namul
Gaji Namul
Gosari Namul
Hobak Namul
Kong Namul
Sukju Namul

STIR FRY
Beoseot Bokkeum
Kimchi Bokkeum


I am not vegetarian but these are just the ones that jumped out at me. Hell even kimchi often has seafood in it. If you ate no meat or seafood (or have a seafood allergy) it would be very difficult
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red_devil



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Added annotations on those, thanks.
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shinramyun



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to find vegetarian foods or restaurants outside of Seoul?

Clearly, you've never set a foot outside of Seoul. Fact.
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