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Bucheonguy
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 Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly don't know why there is such resistance to this idea. Who can stand by and support America these days? Who can say it's a great place to live? Who can agree with EVERYTHING they are doing internationally... Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
Even if you don't think the USA is fascist you have to admit that the country needs immediate and radical reform and the Obama team, made up of the same cronies that have been running the country for the past 30 years isn't going to do it. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| Have to disagree with you there, what "racial & religious proganda"? I don't recall the gov't or media telling me that Iraqis are an inferior race, as the Nazis said about the Slavic race, or that all of them are enemies of the US by virtue of being Iraqi. Totally invalid comparison. By all means criticise the Iraq war for legitimate, practical reasons, though. |
Whites on here complain about how much crime blacks commit in America. This chart http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/upload/85112_1.gif shows that the percentage of blacks in the US military is 44% higher than the percentage of blacks in the US population. If it's true that blacks commit more crime than whites, and add in the fact that black gangs often send their members into the US military for training, and the fact that the black population in the US military is 44% higher than it is in the US population, one would think that it would be a recipe for disaster. One would think that our black soldiers would be the troublemakers in Iraq.
Yet, when there are photos of war crimes, is it African-American soldiers in these photos? No. Who is it? White soldiers of both genders. Our black soldiers, even Crips and other gangstas, are serving our country with honor. Our African-American soldiers make us proud. Meanwhile, we've had white soldiers who have absolutely ruined America's reputation.
Why is it that American prisons are disproportionately full of black men, but blacks have served America with honor with distinction while white soldiers of both genders have ruined America's reputation by committing hate crimes in Iraq?
My theory is that blacks ignored the racial propaganda because they're used to being profiled. But whites lapped it up, especially since it's been whites spewing the propaganda. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
| cwflaneur wrote: |
| Have to disagree with you there, what "racial & religious proganda"? I don't recall the gov't or media telling me that Iraqis are an inferior race, as the Nazis said about the Slavic race, or that all of them are enemies of the US by virtue of being Iraqi. Totally invalid comparison. By all means criticise the Iraq war for legitimate, practical reasons, though. |
Whites on here complain about how much crime blacks commit in America. This chart http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/upload/85112_1.gif shows that the percentage of blacks in the US military is 44% higher than the percentage of blacks in the US population. If it's true that blacks commit more crime than whites, and add in the fact that black gangs often send their members into the US military for training, and the fact that the black population in the US military is 44% higher than it is in the US population, one would think that it would be a recipe for disaster. One would think that our black soldiers would be the troublemakers in Iraq.
Yet, when there are photos of war crimes, is it African-American soldiers in these photos? No. Who is it? White soldiers of both genders. Our black soldiers, even Crips and other gangstas, are serving our country with honor. Our African-American soldiers make us proud. Meanwhile, we've had white soldiers who have absolutely ruined America's reputation.
Why is it that American prisons are disproportionately full of black men, but blacks have served America with honor with distinction while white soldiers of both genders have ruined America's reputation by committing hate crimes in Iraq?
My theory is that blacks ignored the racial propaganda because they're used to being profiled. But whites lapped it up, especially since it's been whites spewing the propaganda. |
^ This is bizarre. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| RJjr wrote: |
| cwflaneur wrote: |
| Have to disagree with you there, what "racial & religious proganda"? I don't recall the gov't or media telling me that Iraqis are an inferior race, as the Nazis said about the Slavic race, or that all of them are enemies of the US by virtue of being Iraqi. Totally invalid comparison. By all means criticise the Iraq war for legitimate, practical reasons, though. |
Whites on here complain about how much crime blacks commit in America. This chart http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/upload/85112_1.gif shows that the percentage of blacks in the US military is 44% higher than the percentage of blacks in the US population. If it's true that blacks commit more crime than whites, and add in the fact that black gangs often send their members into the US military for training, and the fact that the black population in the US military is 44% higher than it is in the US population, one would think that it would be a recipe for disaster. One would think that our black soldiers would be the troublemakers in Iraq.
Yet, when there are photos of war crimes, is it African-American soldiers in these photos? No. Who is it? White soldiers of both genders. Our black soldiers, even Crips and other gangstas, are serving our country with honor. Our African-American soldiers make us proud. Meanwhile, we've had white soldiers who have absolutely ruined America's reputation.
Why is it that American prisons are disproportionately full of black men, but blacks have served America with honor with distinction while white soldiers of both genders have ruined America's reputation by committing hate crimes in Iraq?
My theory is that blacks ignored the racial propaganda because they're used to being profiled. But whites lapped it up, especially since it's been whites spewing the propaganda. |
^ This is bizarre. |
v This is bizarre.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Abu-Ghraib-Prison-Photos11jun04p30.jpg
http://www.bloggerheads.com/abu_ghraib/iraq_torture_01.jpg
http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/abu-ghraib-torture.jpg
http://rwor.org/i/abughraib.jpg
http://www.infowars.com/images2/iraq/steam.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_J75KSkAzZ1Y/R-Hff15BgtI/AAAAAAAAAYA/VQZdM8zh-7E/s400/Abu%2BGhraib.jpg
http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/abu-ghraib-torture4.jpg
http://www.photius.com/rogue_nations/abu_ghraib_prison_antiwar_com_files/torture3.jpg
http://www.bush2004.com/images/abu_ghraib.jpg
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/15/abughraib9,0.jpg
Mises, you say blacks commit so much more crime than whites, but I can't find any blacks in any of the war crime photographs. Why is this, especially when blacks make up 16% of the military population compared with only 11% of the American general population? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Even if the US is racist , it has tried harder than 95% of the rest of the counties in the world to address the problem.
Other counties around the world don't have to be ashamed of racism cause their aren't other races. Given the chance they would be more racist than the US. |
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