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Hater Depot
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Fox
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Overall, I think governmental regulation can be a positive force in society, ensuring the products we buy are safe, and the information we receive about those products is honest. But when I see things like this:
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| Studios can teach lotus poses to as many clients as they like, state officials said. But teacher training programs, which the state views as similar to dog grooming, massage therapy or other classes intended to prepare someone for a job, must be certified under state law. (For instance, Simply Ballroom Dance Teachers Academy, Danny Ward Horseshoeing School and Jiggers Bartending School are certified.) |
It's easy to see why some people simply give up on the idea of positive governmental regulation. Yoga instructors, dog groomers, massage workers, ballroom dancing instructors, bartenders, horse-shoe instructors? I feel no particular need to have the training processes of instructors of these things be overseen by the government.
When governmental regulation stops being about human safety and starts being about raising funds, it just becomes dishonest. Taxes should always be called what they are, not disguised as things like certification fees, registration fees, and so forth. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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You can blame this on the recent transition from a "Red State" to a "Blue State" on this one.
Look what happens when you have Democrats in Charge. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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You can blame this on the recent transition from a "Red State" to a "Blue State" on this one.
Look what happens when you have Democrats in Charge. |
oversimplification. Gotta love it. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Considering that the job of yoga instructor entails giving people directions about how to contort their bodies in some pretty extreme ways, I would not rule out a credible case to be made for some degree of regulation. |
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Interested
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| Considering that the job of yoga instructor entails giving people directions about how to contort their bodies in some pretty extreme ways, I would not rule out a credible case to be made for some degree of regulation. |
Agreed. Fox and Co have probably never taken an advanced Yoga class. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
You can blame this on the recent transition from a "Red State" to a "Blue State" on this one.
Look what happens when you have Democrats in Charge. |
oversimplification. Gotta love it. |
http://www.schev.edu/council/CouncilBios.asp
Hmm, just looking at the Council Members, I can take a wild guess and assume that most of those people (more than 50%) voted for a Democrat in the last 8 years.
The members of that council from Northern Virginia and are female, which is a HUGE voting demographic in Northern Virginia. Almost all Black males from Richmond vote Democrat, as reflected by the high African-American population in the city of Richmond, and the predominantly Democrat City Council members that are voted in every year.
Whittington Clement served in Mark Warner's cabinet, so he's most definitely a Democrat.
Oversimplification? Ha. I'm a 25+ year resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and I can say with reasonable certainty that the majority of people on that Council are Democrats, and if you had more Conservatives on that Council, you would've never seen the added Regulation of Yoga Instructors. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Oversimplification? Ha. I'm a 25+ year resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and I can say with reasonable certainty that the majority of people on that Council are Democrats, and if you had more Conservatives on that Council, you would've never seen the added Regulation of Yoga Instructors. |
I wanna see if I can keep all this straight in my head: Republicans are Conservatives, while Democrats are liberals. Do I got that right?
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saw6436
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Location: Daejeon, ROK
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| It's just another form of taxation. D or R has nothing to do with it. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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In the US there are more than 800 such regulated occupations. At the turn of the last century there were only 2.
Occupational licensure is one of the reasons that the structural level of unemployment considered to be "full employment" has risen so high.
All involuntary unemployment is a result of government rules, regulations and taxation.
In a free market there is no involuntary unemployment. |
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Rusty Shackleford
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Considering that the job of yoga instructor entails giving people directions about how to contort their bodies in some pretty extreme ways, I would not rule out a credible case to be made for some degree of regulation. |
Even so, the net benefit of govt inacting this regulation is likely to be negative. Specifically, the cost of jobs lost is greater than the value of the harm reduction. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Interested wrote: |
| On the other hand wrote: |
| Considering that the job of yoga instructor entails giving people directions about how to contort their bodies in some pretty extreme ways, I would not rule out a credible case to be made for some degree of regulation. |
Agreed. Fox and Co have probably never taken an advanced Yoga class. |
I've no doubt an advanced Yoga class involves some postures which, if done incorrectly, could result in muscle damage. So does lifting heavy things.
This is simply not something that needs to be overseen by the government. Schools that poorly train yoga teachers will quickly go out of business. This isn't a case like food poisoning, where if you get sick, it's often very hard to tell exactly what did it. If you go to Yoga class, and get hurt, it's pretty obvious what happened. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| Considering that the job of yoga instructor entails giving people directions about how to contort their bodies in some pretty extreme ways, I would not rule out a credible case to be made for some degree of regulation. |
Yeah, maybe. But this looks like harassment by the state gov to me. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Oversimplification? Ha. I'm a 25+ year resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and I can say with reasonable certainty that the majority of people on that Council are Democrats, and if you had more Conservatives on that Council, you would've never seen the added Regulation of Yoga Instructors. |
I wanna see if I can keep all this straight in my head: Republicans are Conservatives, while Democrats are liberals. Do I got that right?
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Conservatives are mostly aligned with the Republican party, however, there are a few Conservative Democrats (fiscally conservative, but moderate/liberal on social issues) called Bluedog Democrats.
Majority of liberals are Democrats. How many liberals do YOU know that voted for Bush or McCain?
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Oversimplification? Ha. I'm a 25+ year resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and I can say with reasonable certainty that the majority of people on that Council are Democrats, and if you had more Conservatives on that Council, you would've never seen the added Regulation of Yoga Instructors. |
I wanna see if I can keep all this straight in my head: Republicans are Conservatives, while Democrats are liberals. Do I got that right?
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Conservatives are mostly aligned with the Republican party, however, there are a few Conservative Democrats (fiscally conservative, but moderate/liberal on social issues) called Bluedog Democrats.
Majority of liberals are Democrats. How many liberals do YOU know that voted for Bush or McCain?
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The problem is I don't know what "a liberal" is. Do they all believe the same things, vote the same way?
I find it much more productive to talk about specific issues and individuals' positions on them. |
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