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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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"Playing at Yongsan" doesn't not equal "need army buddies" unless it's on the base. Playing at Yongsan means it's at Yongsan station.
attacking people for downloading it in Korea is pointless. There is no other way for them to see it. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
People like you are going to kill the South African film industry.
| E_athlete wrote: |
just watched it on my computer. It's a really well done movie in terms of special effects. Everything was pretty believable except the part when wikus and the alien go to retrieve that liquid with just 2 alien rifles. That was pretty unrealistic. Then again, if you analyze everything like that I'm sure there are 20 different holes in the film like how aliens would sell their uber powerful weapons for food...
I personally hated the main character so much from the get go I was wishing he'd die but he didn't. I guess he did get some poetic justice so I shouldn't be that unsatisfied. |
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The fundamental flaw in equating piracy with "killing an industry" is that it assumes the person who pirated could have and would have paid if they hadn't pirated. If E_athelete won't or can't pay to see the movie, he doesn't affect the industry in any way by downloading it.
It shocks me that people still have such a dated conception of data piracy. The only similarity between actual theft and data piracy is that they both happen to be called theft by the law -- a law that was written by people bought and paid for by private enterprises who want the law on their side in this matter.
| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
Yep. No ethics here.  |
There's nothing ethical in blindly following a set of laws that is essentially a corporate wish-list, and which have nothing to do with the common good. |
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He with Horns on Head
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Cybergoat farm
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| Don't you guys download movies/music first usually, then if it is good go see it on the big screen/purchase the album? What does it matter in the end, who wants to pay for something that turns out to be rubbish? |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
Yep. No ethics here.
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Why should industry X be protected from technological progress?
Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida logic: You folks who fly at 550mph in planes make me sick. Aviation's gonna kill the rail and shipping industries.
Where would we be if we applied that logic across the board? Agricultural Revolution perhaps? If we were lucky? I fail to see why movie industries should receive special treatment. Download away!
| Charles Darwin wrote: |
| It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.� |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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So, stealing isn't wrong. Gotcha!
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
People like you are going to kill the South African film industry.
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just watched it on my computer. It's a really well done movie in terms of special effects. Everything was pretty believable except the part when wikus and the alien go to retrieve that liquid with just 2 alien rifles. That was pretty unrealistic. Then again, if you analyze everything like that I'm sure there are 20 different holes in the film like how aliens would sell their uber powerful weapons for food...
I personally hated the main character so much from the get go I was wishing he'd die but he didn't. I guess he did get some poetic justice so I shouldn't be that unsatisfied. |
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The fundamental flaw in equating piracy with "killing an industry" is that it assumes the person who pirated could have and would have paid if they hadn't pirated. If E_athelete won't or can't pay to see the movie, he doesn't affect the industry in any way by downloading it.
It shocks me that people still have such a dated conception of data piracy. The only similarity between actual theft and data piracy is that they both happen to be called theft by the law -- a law that was written by people bought and paid for by private enterprises who want the law on their side in this matter.
| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
| Yep. No ethics here. |
There's nothing ethical in blindly following a set of laws that is essentially a corporate wish-list, and which have nothing to do with the common good. |
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He with Horns on Head
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Cybergoat farm
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually if you watched the movie you might have noticed many things were stolen in it: clothes, food, guns, cars - good lord, it even had a kidnapping or two, so perhaps it's best not to watch the movie as stealing is wrong and it might convince you otherwise. |
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mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| If there's anyone who is killing the south african film industry, its the retards who decided that not opening in Korea at the same time as everywhere else was a good idea. I'd like to see this movie, but there is no place for me to see it. So i downloaded it, and will watch it tonight. when it comes out on the big screen, I'll probably pay to watch it there too. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
| So, stealing isn't wrong. Gotcha! |
Correct. Sometimes stealing -- under the legal definition of the word -- is not wrong. Historically speaking, there have been many occasions where breaking the law was not wrong. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
So, stealing isn't wrong. Gotcha!
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Technology has changed. The world has changed. The movie industry, where ever it may be, needs to adapt, or die.
Is there actually any evidence that downloading is killing the movie and music industries? I don't believe so. And even if there is, it would mean that those industries need to change in order to remain profitable - change which will, in all likelihood, provide employment in other industries that otherwise wouldn't have existed, resulting in economic growth! |
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He with Horns on Head
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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Why we can't all be like Jesus and steal desert sand and sandals is beyond me. Beyond!
PS - The Beyond is the best Lucio Fulci movie ever, this is true. |
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Jang-Dong Gun
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't know anything about this movie so I watched the trailer. It looks amazing! Produced by Peter Jackson?! Wow! |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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That's correct. I would not have paid for the movie if the movie theater playing District 9 was beside my apartment and for only 6000 won. I still would of watched the high quality pirated version on my laptop at home. Because the technology is here and I can, that's really all there is to it.
The first and last album I ever purchased was the Smashing Pumpkin's Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (1995). I haven't bought any music CD since then because of the progression of the internet and data file compressions enabling mp3's. I don't buy movies or rent. I just download everything and I still continue to do so.
Is it stealing? You can say I'm just file sharing with people on the internet or maybe you can say that I'm exchanging data with other data thieves. At the end of the day you need to become aware of the fact that the technology is here, and whether you like it or not, for good or bad, people will use it.
Don't worry about me stealing, I'll just repent every weekend and ask Jesus for forgiveness of my sins. That will give me a clean sleight. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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I didn't get the point of the movie - a bunch of aliens want to go home?
I had heard that there were some political ideologies that the creator used in his original 2005 short but Jackson's version is very watered-down.
I liked the documentary feel and camerawork of the movie, however.
I can see the toys, video games & merchandising that might come out of this flick. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Word. The Industry needs an update.
The movie was original enough, but I was expecting a little more. The Nigerians were funny "I want to eat your arm!" and 'Interspecies prostitution'. Goofy.
I would have thought Amsterdam had a monopoly on that  |
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