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Radioactive
Joined: 03 Dec 2003
Location: DPRK
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Work, work, work. *beep* that. Stop and smell the roses. I found this to be interesting:
Country Description Amount
1. Australia 1814 hours
2. Japan 1801 hours
3. United States 1792 hours
4. Canada 1718 hours
5. United Kingdom 1673 hours
6. Italy 1591 hours
7. Sweden 1564 hours
8. France 1453 hours
9. Norway 1337 hours
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/lab_hou_wor&int=10
This is the average annual working hours for the top 9 countries. Those crazy Aussie's are stuffing the ballots if you ask me. |
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AdamH
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
Location: Bachman Turner Overdrive...Let's Rock!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Does that mean the ACTUAL hours where real WORK was being done?
If not, I find it hard to believe. I'm told it's common for Koreans to be in the office for 12 hours a day or more; any westerners I've ever met would tell you to go fornicate with yourself if you asked them to do the same with any regularity. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Australia's figures refer to total number of hours worked by the entire population, in one year. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
Moreover, Asian Americans already earn more than whites, and sooner or later, this will be translated into political power. |
Do you mean per capita or collectively? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans are very racially conscious. They quietly regard whites as inferior |
Generally Asians have deep inferiority complexes, so it manifests itself in this way. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Do you mean per capita or collectively? |
Per capita obviously. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
| obviously. |
There was nothing obvious about it. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Dan wrote: |
I don't think Asians are any smarter. I think Asians are more ambitious. To achieve more and better is a central part of the Asians cultures that I am aware of.
If I've met a non-ambitious white person (and they are a minority in my opinion), their attitude is, "life's good so lets enjoy it."
So I don't think it has to do with pure smarts or IQ or EQ or whatever. |
Well I'd say that can apply to 1st and 2nd generations, not so much 3rd gen. Asians or later. The laziest dudes I know are a couple Asians whose roots to the USA are about as long as mine. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
Interesting how 'affirmative action' (AKA racial discrimination) is now negatively impacting on Asians in the US.
What is even more telling is the blatant bias in the following article. The headline is 'Research shows benefits of affirmative action'. It should accurately be titled 'Research shows benefits of affirmative action for blacks and hispanics.'
It is a disgrace that many Asians, who work so hard, have their places taken by people who have scored extra points, simply because of their race.
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/news/story/0,,1501215,00.html
'Removing consideration of race would have little effect on white students -their acceptance rate would rise by only 0.5 percentage points. Asian students would fill nearly four out of every five places in the admitted class not taken by African-American and Hispanic students.' |
Something about this has been bothering me.
How come there are so many Asians who earn just enough points to make the shortlist were it not for affirmative action, but not more? In other words, it looks like there are a disproportionate number of Asian students doing well but not brilliantly (not counting the brilliant ones who are making it into uni' despite affirmative action that is). That just seems weird.
I'm confused. Perhaps this just shows that the stereotype is true: the brightest students are making it in regardless of background but, of the less bright students, the Asians are working the hardest, hence the cluster at the wrong end of the shortlist. Can anyone offer a better explanation? |
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MeanyMichi
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: SNOW!!!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| cjenny wrote: |
You don't have to "tell" your kids that you love them - Korean kids know that their parents love them even if they don't say, "I love you." You don't have to be verbal about love for your children. If you love your kids, they know that you love them. You seem to be very ignorant about Korean culture and view it as "inferior" compared to western culture.
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I completely agree: children can tell by their parents' behaviour that they are loved. My father doesn't tell me, but I know he loves me.
I would define "love" as caring for someone, and wanting them to be happy.
So it saddens me when my (university) students tell me that they are studying law/medicine/engineering/<insert "respectable" degree here> because that's what their parents want them to study, even though they absolutely hate it.
Parents should want their children to be happy individuals, not just another possession they can show off and brag about. Unfortunately that's what I've found children to be here many times. Their happiness doesn't matter; just the the additional status they can give to their parents. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| MeanyMichi wrote: |
| cjenny wrote: |
You don't have to "tell" your kids that you love them - Korean kids know that their parents love them even if they don't say, "I love you." You don't have to be verbal about love for your children. If you love your kids, they know that you love them. You seem to be very ignorant about Korean culture and view it as "inferior" compared to western culture.
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I completely agree: children can tell by their parents' behaviour that they are loved. My father doesn't tell me, but I know he loves me.
I would define "love" as caring for someone, and wanting them to be happy.
So it saddens me when my (university) students tell me that they are studying law/medicine/engineering/<insert "respectable" degree here> because that's what their parents want them to study, even though they absolutely hate it.
Parents should want their children to be happy individuals, not just another possession they can show off and brag about. Unfortunately that's what I've found children to be here many times. Their happiness doesn't matter; just the the additional status they can give to their parents. |
and I ask the question again
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| so how do you suggest love is shown? |
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Dan
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Dan wrote: |
I don't think Asians are any smarter. I think Asians are more ambitious. To achieve more and better is a central part of the Asians cultures that I am aware of.
If I've met a non-ambitious white person (and they are a minority in my opinion), their attitude is, "life's good so lets enjoy it."
So I don't think it has to do with pure smarts or IQ or EQ or whatever. |
Well I'd say that can apply to 1st and 2nd generations, not so much 3rd gen. Asians or later. The laziest dudes I know are a couple Asians whose roots to the USA are about as long as mine. |
Actually, I see a lot of lazy 1st and 2nd gen lazy a$$ Koreans these days. Chalk it up to multi-culturalism. |
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jaebea
Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: SYD
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Dan had a pretty good point about ambition, but I think that people are just about as ambitious as each other. It's just a matter of looking at what they're ambitious about.. :)
Children of Korean migrants in Australia have, almost as one, studied/worked hard, are either at uni or successful in other ventures and are well on their way to stability and increases in socioeconomic status.
For some reason, although I took the same steps as everyone else, the studying, the selective schools, the degree, I've come out a little different. My ambition now isn't about securing the best and most comfortable future for myself.
I've been inspired by people on this board and other people I've met, and figured it's no fun being locked into a 8-6 grind in a corporate environment, paying off a house (!), with a mortgage chained to your sorry back for the next TWENTY years, and stressing about impressing bosses, meeting targets, and so on. I've found that that's not my idea of "success" anymore. :) All power to people who thrive with the work, but come 10 years down the track, I'd safely say 9/10 would rather be somewhere else.
Personally, I can't wait to do what hundreds of thousands of other Aussies have been doing, and heading off to view the big, wide world with no expectations.. :D
jae. |
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The evil penguin
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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