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teacherinseoul



Joined: 18 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epicurus wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Our school, as luck would have it, offered a free computerized body muscle/fat check-up today. I am at 20.3 percent body fat. I have lost 3 kgs in the past month. According to the computer, I should lose another 6 kgs or so. That's my goal for the next 3 months.


I got this fancy body composition analysis done at a Bangkok Gym (True Fitness by Asoke elevated train station). I was hooked up to this thing for a good 4 minutes.

fascinatingly enough - a Korean machine. made my Biospace

http://www.biospace.co.kr

I wonder if I can find one here now and compare where I am now compared to where I was in Feb, 09 when I had it done in BKK. Or.. I'll just have to wait till Feb, 10 Smile

my percent bodyfat they said was 13.7% at 91 kilos of weight.

the "body composition analysis" provided by this Korean machine gave a lot of other interesting stats too.

oh yeah.. my BMI was 28.0 .

which I think classified me as definitely "overweight"

Laughing


A good measure of body fat says more than BMI, which doesn't account for muscle mass. Many professional athletes could be classified as overweight based on BMI. 14% is right around average.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacherinseoul wrote:
Epicurus wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Our school, as luck would have it, offered a free computerized body muscle/fat check-up today. I am at 20.3 percent body fat. I have lost 3 kgs in the past month. According to the computer, I should lose another 6 kgs or so. That's my goal for the next 3 months.


I got this fancy body composition analysis done at a Bangkok Gym (True Fitness by Asoke elevated train station). I was hooked up to this thing for a good 4 minutes.

fascinatingly enough - a Korean machine. made my Biospace

http://www.biospace.co.kr

I wonder if I can find one here now and compare where I am now compared to where I was in Feb, 09 when I had it done in BKK. Or.. I'll just have to wait till Feb, 10 Smile

my percent bodyfat they said was 13.7% at 91 kilos of weight.

the "body composition analysis" provided by this Korean machine gave a lot of other interesting stats too.

oh yeah.. my BMI was 28.0 .

which I think classified me as definitely "overweight"

Laughing


A good measure of body fat says more than BMI, which doesn't account for muscle mass. Many professional athletes could be classified as overweight based on BMI. 14% is right around average.


yeah mine is higher than I'd like - I'm shooting for 11% by spring. Will start some light aerobic stuff and really focus on food intake.

this looks interesting.

http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/bodyfatpercentage.html
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Starla



Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To fromtheuk, your diet sounds very limited. You will bore of it if you continue to eat the same things day in and day out. And 4 eggs a day? 7 days a week? That is far too much cholesterol you're digesting. I believe the weekly recommended limit is 3 eggs. I think you should just eat the foods you enjoy but practice portion control and eat low fat/sugar versions of them. Find out what a proper portion of everything you eat is and keep that in mind every time you eat.

As for me, I wasn't overweight when I came here but I lost about 5 pounds in the first few months nonetheless so now I stand at 5'7" and 124 pounds. I eat everything basically and balance it equally between Korean food and Western food though I've always followed a low fat diet. Can't deal with not eating sugar though and eat a small amount of cookies or cakes with unsweetened coffee or tea after every meal. I've also been doing so much salsa dancing since getting here which burns so many calories.

One thing I have to say is I feel much healthier after eating Korean food and I've acquired so many favorite new veggies. Not lethargic like with Western food. When I was New York this month, I just ordered myself a slice of pizza and I was feeling sick afterward. It was also very hard to find healthy options there whereas here, it's so much easier not to mention you're not charged extra for it.

I think my body has gotten used to the large amounts of vegetables, fish and kimchi in Korean food I've been consuming which are all very low in fat. And I've read that kimchi or more specifically the hot peppers, garlic and cabbage that are in kimchi serve to increase metabolism after consumption. Something like up to 20% higher metabolism up to 4 hours after eating kimchi. So I eat a lot of that now and really enjoy it. In fact, I think I'm addicted to the kimchi at this point.
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ChinaChao1



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may have to do with all the walking and work that Koreans do... I've seen those chicks walk around in heels. My theory about their calves. Plus I don't think Korean chicks eat as much, or overstuff themselves plus they can drink! My Korean friend said that a Korean girl would rather eat less and have to work out less than the other way around. I love food too much to do that! =P Thumbs up to the weight loss as most of America is FAT. Sad Sad

fromtheuk wrote:
I have tuna mixed with baked beans because it tastes so nice. I've always liked that since I was a teenager.

It depends on what you like to eat, not everybody likes tuna. I think it's sardines that have too much potassium or mercury, but tuna is okay to have regularly.

Many Koreans are slim, but I don't like their food, some of them go fishing and eat the fish without cooking it. I know that is the nature of their cuisine, but I couldn't stomach that.

On another thread I've mine, I have commented almost every time I use the toilet at school, there is some unflushed diarrhea there. I don't think their food is as healthy as it is claimed to be.
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roadwork



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Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaChao1 wrote:
It may have to do with all the walking and work that Koreans do... I've seen those chicks walk around in heels. My theory about their calves. Plus I don't think Korean chicks eat as much, or overstuff themselves plus they can drink! My Korean friend said that a Korean girl would rather eat less and have to work out less than the other way around. I love food too much to do that! =P Thumbs up to the weight loss as most of America is FAT. Sad Sad

fromtheuk wrote:
I have tuna mixed with baked beans because it tastes so nice. I've always liked that since I was a teenager.

It depends on what you like to eat, not everybody likes tuna. I think it's sardines that have too much potassium or mercury, but tuna is okay to have regularly.

Many Koreans are slim, but I don't like their food, some of them go fishing and eat the fish without cooking it. I know that is the nature of their cuisine, but I couldn't stomach that.

On another thread I've mine, I have commented almost every time I use the toilet at school, there is some unflushed diarrhea there. I don't think their food is as healthy as it is claimed to be.


Calves? What calves? Their legs look like an olive on a toothpick. And as far as eating less and working out less, that's why they look so anorexic/bulimic. Ever see a Korean girl with anything resembling muscle tone? Look at some of the athletic women in basketball/volleyball/figure skating. Even they don't have any muscle tone.
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Starla



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadwork wrote:
ChinaChao1 wrote:
It may have to do with all the walking and work that Koreans do... I've seen those chicks walk around in heels. My theory about their calves. Plus I don't think Korean chicks eat as much, or overstuff themselves plus they can drink! My Korean friend said that a Korean girl would rather eat less and have to work out less than the other way around. I love food too much to do that! =P Thumbs up to the weight loss as most of America is FAT. Sad Sad

fromtheuk wrote:
I have tuna mixed with baked beans because it tastes so nice. I've always liked that since I was a teenager.

It depends on what you like to eat, not everybody likes tuna. I think it's sardines that have too much potassium or mercury, but tuna is okay to have regularly.

Many Koreans are slim, but I don't like their food, some of them go fishing and eat the fish without cooking it. I know that is the nature of their cuisine, but I couldn't stomach that.

On another thread I've mine, I have commented almost every time I use the toilet at school, there is some unflushed diarrhea there. I don't think their food is as healthy as it is claimed to be.


Calves? What calves? Their legs look like an olive on a toothpick. And as far as eating less and working out less, that's why they look so anorexic/bulimic. Ever see a Korean girl with anything resembling muscle tone? Look at some of the athletic women in basketball/volleyball/figure skating. Even they don't have any muscle tone.


It's true most Korean women seem to balk at the idea of working out and are generally weaker than me and most of my Western female friends. And they seem to eat little but often. They're just starting to catch on with the whole exercise thing here. As for their bodies, some have skinny legs and some have kinda chubby legs if you haven't noticed. They tend to put on weight around their middles or their legs too which has to do with body type. But yeah, they usually don't have toned bodies which can partially be due to one's natural build and genetics. I feel kind of soft compared to other women but I look a bit toned without working out much. Does that make sense?
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Goku



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying the Okinawan diet now.
I've been on it for about 2 weeks.

The pros: Good energy, no lethargy. people have mentioned good skin, I look healthy and that I give a really wonderful aura. I feel good everywhere and I feel younger and much skinnier. The man flab and boobs have been drastically reduced.

The cons: Consumption consists of food like unprocessed grains and vegetables. Meat and cheese is rarely eaten and the only meat is just a small serving of fish. It can wreak havoc on cravings. But generally they haven't been so tempting I want to cheat the diet yet.

So far I've been strict to the diet and only cheating through coffee. (Which im not sure is really cheating though).

Also, I'm fasting once every week by skipping a dinner or a lunch to keep my body on it's toes in terms of the calorie intake. Studies recently indicate a low cal diet can prolong life.... we'll just see how that works.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple good tips for those in Korea to lose weight.

1) Stop eating pizza and fast food. Learn to shop in Korea by visiting the super and street markets in your area for fresh veggies, meats & fish.

2) Don't deep-fry your food. Cook lean recipes only.


I limit my fast food intake to once or twice per month.

I visit the gym 4-5 times per week.

My routine: 50 min. of cardio. 1600-2000 sit-ups per week. 30 min. of weights.

I'm at a plateau of 90kg right now which I can't seem to cross. Perhaps I'll try walking more. I can't recall my last BMI figure.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacherinseoul wrote:
kg2095 wrote:
I'm no Picasso wrote:
Anyway, my key to losing weight has been moving to Korea. I have no idea what it is. Before, I was a vegetarian with a busy life living in NYC (walking everywhere -- no car) who existed primarily on coffee and cigarettes.

Now I'm eating mostly red meat and white rice, yet I've gone down five sizes in the last ten months. I don't "work out" or any of that nonsense. Korea's magic.

Unexplained weight loss of this magnitude is something doctors worry about. It would be a good idea for you to get a check up.


Agreed. We obviously don't have the whole story, but the part-story suggests that you should get checked for blood sugar/diabetes.


It's not that rapid, guys. It works out to between six and seven pounds a month, and it's been very steady, a little faster at first with a slight decrease over time. Losing seven pounds a month is not dangerous or cause for concern, especially when you are as overweight as I was in the beginning.

I don't eat crappy food and haven't since I was in high school (where I gained the weight in the first place) and overall have had a fairly active, healthy lifestyle since I started college. Still, the weight never seemed to budge. The only thing I can think of is that something with the Korean diet seems to jive well with my body chemistry. That combined with a slight increase in daily activity (on my feet, always, moving around the classroom, gesturing, etc. for six to seven hours a day) has led to a steady loss of weight. It's nothing to worry about.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a great thread. Lots of great advice. Recently, I had to kick my main vice: booze. I've noticed a big change from even doing that. These days, not only because of economics, but because of health reasons, I stick to making tofu at home. It's cheap (especially from the street market) and nutritious. Even more so with some chung-gook-jang. I have also taken to steaming my veggies and slightly stirfrying them with teriyaki sauce.
I'm still working on quitting smoking as well, and looking forward to getting my tastebuds back.

**To Starla: Yeah, that makes sense. I was just saying that if you look at what is considered beautiful in Korean culture, it's just a pretty face and a skinny body, whereas in western culture, I think that most men would go for a body style more like Beyonce (thick strong legs, round butt, wider hips) or Tyra.
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whome33



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when facing a daunting about of weight to lose, just go back to basics. common knowledge that you surely already know. don't eat after 7pm, don't eat obvious junk food, and don't eat until you're stuffed. be satisfied not filled to the brim. don't try difficult diets and torture yourself, because changes are you will cheat on your diet, become discouraged, and quit. baby stops bob.
if you can follow these pretty easy dietary rules, you will start to see results without starving yourself.
add in some excercise. if you're over weight, in all likelihood the most appropriate activity would be walking. evening walks are nice. go for an hour, 4 times a week. walking is a low-intensity activity, which burns fat. at higher intensities, a large amount of your energy will be taken from stored glycogen.
a weight regiment is also good. stimulating muscle development increases your metabolism. your resting metabolic rate will increase....so you'll burn more calories during the day during your regular activities.

drink more water. less coke, beer, and less sugar in your coffee.

this basic things and you'll shed some weigh without working too hard.
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whome33



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, be patient. dont get discouraged. healthy weight loss is gradual. make a 6 month plan.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whome33: What does that mean 'baby stops bob'?
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fromtheuk



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experimenting with the menu is ongoing. I eat lamb, chicken, but less often nowadays. I've also reduced exercise to five 30 minute walks a week. 5kms an hour speed on the treadmill, it comes to at least 7 miles a week.

I also do 20-type abdominal exercises 5 days a week too.

I can't be bothered to go through the entire thread to see what the last thing I wrote about my diet was, but I eat what I used to, minus margarine, butter, cakes, cookies, junk food basically.

I feel pretty good. As a man, I think 4 eggs in one day is not excessive. Apparently, only those with proven problems with eggs shouldn't eat too many of them.
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Forward Observer



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goku wrote:
I'm trying the Okinawan diet now.
I've been on it for about 2 weeks.

The pros: Good energy, no lethargy. people have mentioned good skin, I look healthy and that I give a really wonderful aura. I feel good everywhere and I feel younger and much skinnier. The man flab and boobs have been drastically reduced.

The cons: Consumption consists of food like unprocessed grains and vegetables. Meat and cheese is rarely eaten and the only meat is just a small serving of fish. It can wreak havoc on cravings. But generally they haven't been so tempting I want to cheat the diet yet.

So far I've been strict to the diet and only cheating through coffee. (Which im not sure is really cheating though).

Also, I'm fasting once every week by skipping a dinner or a lunch to keep my body on it's toes in terms of the calorie intake. Studies recently indicate a low cal diet can prolong life.... we'll just see how that works.




Do you have a good link to that diet? I know the basics...

300 percent of green or yellow vegetables, a large percentage of these being sweet potatoes. This diet is also 20 percent lower in calories than the average Japanese diet. It is low in fat and contains only 25 percent of the sugar and 75 percent of grains of the average Japanese dietary intake. There is a rather small amount of fish consumed, and more soy and other legumes. There is nearly no meat, eggs, or dairy products in the diet.
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