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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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 Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: The tables have turned on Apple |
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There was a time where Apple, and Mac users would scream that Microsoft was copying from their O.S. at the time, but it seems that maybe this time Apple is the one copying from Microsoft.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798
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August 25, 2009
Is Snow Leopard just a cheap Windows 7 knockoff?
I wade through Apple's laundry list of borrowed features and derivative works in the new Mac OS
"Where's the beef?" That's the idiom that jumps to mind as I work my way through Galen Gruman's "The 7 best features in Mac OS X Snow Leopard." I knew the features list would be lean -- Apple has deliberately undersold Snow Leopard by pitching it as a relatively minor release -- but please! Gruman's article reads like a laundry list of borrowed features and derivative works. It's as if someone at Apple grabbed a copy of the Windows 7 beta and simply Xeroxed the release notes.
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64-bitness: Yippee! Apple finally goes 64-bit -- BFD! As a Windows user, I've been livin' la vida 64-bit for more than three years. Vista was the first mainstream desktop OS to deliver a viable 64-bit experience, and Windows 7 has taken this migration further by making it the preferred flavor for business users.
[ See how Windows 7 RTM stacks up against Vista and XP in InfoWorld's tests. | Get ready for Windows 7: Download InfoWorld's 21-page PDF Windows 7 Deep Dive report. ]
Meanwhile, Apple can't even deliver a fully 64-bit implementation. Snow Leopard boots into a 32-bit kernel by default -- something about a lack of 64-bit device drivers, which is ironic when you consider how small a hardware ecosystem Apple must govern when compared to Microsoft and its burden of having to run on just about anything with an Intel-compatible CPU.
Expos� Dock Integration: This one's a joke, right? Am I to understand that Apple is just getting around to adding this? Microsoft has been offering this type of functionality (aka thumbnail preview) for years, and Windows 7 has taken the concept further with Aero Peek, Shake, and Snap. It sounds like Apple's Xerox machine suffered a paper jam with this one -- or perhaps it's just stuck in one of those famous Mac OS X infinite loops.
Expanded PDF Preview: If this constitutes a "feature," then Apple must really be grasping! I mean, Windows has supported PDF file preview -- via an installable ifilter module -- ever since Desktop Search debuted pre-Vista. In fact, the ability to seamlessly preview third-party content has been a staple of the Windows experience for years. So while I'm glad to see Apple finally getting on the ball with its PDF handling (I hear the updated viewer lets you basically do away with the piggish Adobe Reader for most common tasks), I'm still utterly stunned by the fact that this is even an issue. Provide a free (i.e. not trialware) XPS document viewer with Mac OS X and then maybe I'll get excited. |
http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798 |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: What? |
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The writer of the article has no clue what most of these items are. First, there is nothing in Windows that can be directly compared to Expose. Nothing. I use both Mac and Windows and can tell you FOR A FACT that Exposes' functionality does not exist in XP or Vista (haven't tried Windows 7 though). Regardless, Expose was part of the Mac OS before Vista was released and long before Windows 7 (even if Windows 7 contains something similar). Also, Apple has not shipped an OS with Adobe Reader in YEARS. Apple uses its own Preview application to read and print PDF files. Not only can the Mac OS preview PDF files (Quicklook), but can also use Spotlight to find individual words within all PDF files (or any other files) on the entire system.
I have no problem with Windows because it fills a need, and the competition is good for both Apple and Microsoft. But, let's not stick our heads in the sand and pretend things are not what they are. Microsoft has copied almost every feature from almost every release of OS X over the past 6 or 7 years. It started a bit with XP, but really took off with Vista. "Gadgets" (Seriously)?; System wide search; the calendar program; etc. The list is long. I'm sure that Quicklook and other Apple goodies have made their way into Windows 7.
What cannot be denied is that Apple is offering a 64 bit version of their OS for $30. This is not like an XP to Vista or Vista to Windows 7 upgrade and is not priced as such. It IS like upgrading from XP 32 bit to XP 64 bit. How much did you pay for that upgrade Windows users? What's that??? More than $30? Every version of Windows is overpriced, even for a maintenance upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit, and this is something that Microsoft needs to figure out and figure out soon. It's why most Windows users around the world (especially here in Korea) download it illegally and pay nothing to Microsoft. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Windows 7 wants 20Gigs of free disk space for 64bit operation, while OSX.6 wants only 5. I guess they haven't mastered the art of stealing features quite yet. |
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ublove
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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At first, I thought the author was aiming for satire. C'mon, Microsoft hasn't had an original idea since when... 2001?
I have to say, I can't wait to get my hands on the revolutionary Zune touch. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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At first, I thought the author was aiming for satire. C'mon, Microsoft hasn't had an original idea since when... 2001?
I have to say, I can't wait to get my hands on the revolutionary Zune touch. |
I'm not sure if this post is sarcastic or not. While the Zune touch (if you mean the Zune HD, that is) isn't revolutionary it's certainly a more powerful device than the iPod Touch. I personally have an iPhone so I'm not hating on Apple stuff. The graphics processor in the Zune is just considerably more powerful than the one in the iPhone/iTouch. Also, Microsoft has had some really awesome ideas coming out of their Microsoft Research department over the last several years. |
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ublove
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| Also, Microsoft has had some really awesome ideas coming out of their Microsoft Research department over the last several years. |
Could you list a few examples? I'm genuinely curious.
The way I see it, it's pretty easy to predict Microsoft's direction; just see what Apple and Google are doing now and add three years.
I'm looking forward to the revolutionary Zune tablet in 2013. |
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xpat
Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Location: Kangnam baby
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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It does not really matter because Microsoft is making money from Apple:
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| . . . Microsoft�s endorsement and support, as well as an investment of $205 million in Apple. This will give Microsoft a five-per-cent stake in the company. At the same time, Apple agreed to drop its legal claims against Microsoft . . . |
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0011385
I know that the above is old news, but best one, which happened only 4 years ago, is this:
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Apple blunder gives Gates iPod royalty
By Katherine Griffiths in New York
Sunday, 14 August 2005
Apple Computer may be forced to pay royalties to Microsoft for every iPod it sells after it emerged that Bill Gates's software giant beat Steve Jobs' firm in the race to file a crucial patent on technology used in the popular portable music players. The total bill could run into hundreds of millions of dollars.
Although Apple introduced the iPod in November 2001, it did not file a provisional patent application until July 2002, and a full application was filed only in October that year.
In the meantime, Microsoft submitted an application in May 2002 to patent some key elements of music players, including song menu software. |
Rest of the article |
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swigs
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| xpat wrote: |
It does not really matter because Microsoft is making money from Apple:
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| . . . Microsoft�s endorsement and support, as well as an investment of $205 million in Apple. This will give Microsoft a five-per-cent stake in the company. At the same time, Apple agreed to drop its legal claims against Microsoft . . . |
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0011385
I know that the above is old news, but best one, which happened only 4 years ago, is this:
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Apple blunder gives Gates iPod royalty
By Katherine Griffiths in New York
Sunday, 14 August 2005
Apple Computer may be forced to pay royalties to Microsoft for every iPod it sells after it emerged that Bill Gates's software giant beat Steve Jobs' firm in the race to file a crucial patent on technology used in the popular portable music players. The total bill could run into hundreds of millions of dollars.
Although Apple introduced the iPod in November 2001, it did not file a provisional patent application until July 2002, and a full application was filed only in October that year.
In the meantime, Microsoft submitted an application in May 2002 to patent some key elements of music players, including song menu software. |
Rest of the article |
All of this info just proves the case in point: Microsoft has a hard time coming up with anything original. They mainly incorporate previously successful ideas and claim that they 'own' them.
And to the OP, it's obvious from the way that article in reference reads that it's more of an editorial opinion piece than something of substance.
But of course Microsoft makes some quality products, but I'd personally take Mac OS X over Windows any day. And with Mac OS X you don't have to chose between 32 bit or 64 bit. |
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