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marlow
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 Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: Applying for Pension before a Runner |
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| How would this work? My understanding is the alien card, a ticket out of here, a passport, and banking info for back home deposits are what would be needed to be delivered to the pension office. Will that work? Will pension phone the school? Or, if the papers are filed on a day off from work before a weekend, and pension needs to contact the school anyway, will it be OK if one leaves on Sunday? Will the paper work filed be enough for the office to get through the refund once the teacher is gone? |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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you might just run into a bit of a problem when they ask about the expiration date on your visa - as in - you haven't finished your contract yet, have you?
don't think they will allow you to apply for it unless you can show your visa has been canceled.
maybe take the paperwork with you and try to file from overseas - maybe someone has done that before? |
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isthisreally
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I gave my school notice that I was leaving and when I went to the pension office they noticed that my dates didn't quite match up and phoned my school.
If you're running you probably shouldn't get your pension money. |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| isthisreally wrote: |
I gave my school notice that I was leaving and when I went to the pension office they noticed that my dates didn't quite match up and phoned my school.
If you're running you probably shouldn't get your pension money. |
yeah i hear of this a lot. People going to pick up their pension before a runner and the pension office people calling your school.
What happens to your pension if you leave it? Does it just stay in Korea? If I person decided to pull an early runner out of ROK can he/she just leave his K-pension behind? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| E_athlete wrote: |
| isthisreally wrote: |
I gave my school notice that I was leaving and when I went to the pension office they noticed that my dates didn't quite match up and phoned my school.
If you're running you probably shouldn't get your pension money. |
yeah i hear of this a lot. People going to pick up their pension before a runner and the pension office people calling your school.
What happens to your pension if you leave it? Does it just stay in Korea? If I person decided to pull an early runner out of ROK can he/she just leave his K-pension behind? |
You can apply for it from Canada, it just takes longer. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| You should apply once you get out of the country, or do it as your last stop on your way to the airport...even then, I wouldn't want to risk them calling my boss, so I'd probably wait. |
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waseige1
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Applying for Pension before a Runner |
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| marlow wrote: |
| How would this work? My understanding is the alien card, a ticket out of here, a passport, and banking info for back home deposits are what would be needed to be delivered to the pension office. Will that work? Will pension phone the school? Or, if the papers are filed on a day off from work before a weekend, and pension needs to contact the school anyway, will it be OK if one leaves on Sunday? Will the paper work filed be enough for the office to get through the refund once the teacher is gone? |
Translation... I am going to break my word and my contract BUT how do I squeeze every last drop out of the system for MEEEEEEEE and to heck with the others. |
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climber159
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Some advice regarding the information provided on the National Pension website. They say that to apply for your pension from outside of Korea you need to have the application for a lump-sum refund and the overseas remittance forms notarized and then attested by the Korean Embassy. Apparently this information is wrong.
I am currently applying for my pension from the US. I was at the Korean consulate and embassy in Washington DC today with my forms (notarized earlier in the day). They WILL NOT "attest" these forms. Rather, they said that I need to go to the Secretary of State and get the forms apostilled. Then send these forms, along with a copy of my passport and a voided check of the account I want my pension deposited into, to the National Pension office in Korea.
(Edit) I'll add that the DC consulate has, by far, the rudest and most unhelpful Korean government employees I have ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of encountering. I went in with a very pleasant attitude (even making my request in Korean) and was met with a response that I can only describe as "icy" with an overwhelming hit of "get the &*#% out of here". |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| climber159 wrote: |
Some advice regarding the information provided on the National Pension website. They say that to apply for your pension from outside of Korea you need to have the application for a lump-sum refund and the overseas remittance forms notarized and then attested by the Korean Embassy. Apparently this information is wrong.
I am currently applying for my pension from the US. I was at the Korean consulate and embassy in Washington DC today with my forms (notarized earlier in the day). They WILL NOT "attest" these forms. Rather, they said that I need to go to the Secretary of State and get the forms apostilled. Then send these forms, along with a copy of my passport and a voided check of the account I want my pension deposited into, to the National Pension office in Korea.
(Edit) I'll add that the DC consulate has, by far, the rudest and most unhelpful Korean government employees I have ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of encountering. I went in with a very pleasant attitude (even making my request in Korean) and was met with a response that I can only describe as "icy" with an overwhelming hit of "get the &*#% out of here". |
You need to compare them with the toronto consulate first. |
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climber159
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| E_athlete wrote: |
| climber159 wrote: |
Some advice regarding the information provided on the National Pension website. They say that to apply for your pension from outside of Korea you need to have the application for a lump-sum refund and the overseas remittance forms notarized and then attested by the Korean Embassy. Apparently this information is wrong.
I am currently applying for my pension from the US. I was at the Korean consulate and embassy in Washington DC today with my forms (notarized earlier in the day). They WILL NOT "attest" these forms. Rather, they said that I need to go to the Secretary of State and get the forms apostilled. Then send these forms, along with a copy of my passport and a voided check of the account I want my pension deposited into, to the National Pension office in Korea.
(Edit) I'll add that the DC consulate has, by far, the rudest and most unhelpful Korean government employees I have ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of encountering. I went in with a very pleasant attitude (even making my request in Korean) and was met with a response that I can only describe as "icy" with an overwhelming hit of "get the &*#% out of here". |
You need to compare them with the toronto consulate first. |
Haha...but notice that I qualified my statement with, "...I have ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of encountering.". I did not say they were thee rudest. That would be a crime against logic, and I like to think I'm clever enough to realize that.
But...getting this thread back on track...OP, you can apply for your pension from your home country; but, be prepared for more flaming hoops to jump through on your quest for your money. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Applying for Pension before a Runner |
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| waseige1 wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| How would this work? My understanding is the alien card, a ticket out of here, a passport, and banking info for back home deposits are what would be needed to be delivered to the pension office. Will that work? Will pension phone the school? Or, if the papers are filed on a day off from work before a weekend, and pension needs to contact the school anyway, will it be OK if one leaves on Sunday? Will the paper work filed be enough for the office to get through the refund once the teacher is gone? |
Translation... I am going to break my word and my contract BUT how do I squeeze every last drop out of the system for MEEEEEEEE and to heck with the others. |
Well, it's not "me", and the pension money is a separate issue from the contract anyway. |
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marlow
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| OP, you can apply for your pension from your home country; but, be prepared for more flaming hoops to jump through on your quest for your money. |
My friend is going to give notice and apply from within Korea. The Alien Registration Card is one of the documents required, and the pension office is going to enquire about the visa expiration date for sure, IMO. |
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mirage
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| climber159 wrote: |
Some advice regarding the information provided on the National Pension website. They say that to apply for your pension from outside of Korea you need to have the application for a lump-sum refund and the overseas remittance forms notarized and then attested by the Korean Embassy. Apparently this information is wrong.
I am currently applying for my pension from the US. I was at the Korean consulate and embassy in Washington DC today with my forms (notarized earlier in the day). They WILL NOT "attest" these forms. Rather, they said that I need to go to the Secretary of State and get the forms apostilled. Then send these forms, along with a copy of my passport and a voided check of the account I want my pension deposited into, to the National Pension office in Korea.
(Edit) I'll add that the DC consulate has, by far, the rudest and most unhelpful Korean government employees I have ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of encountering. I went in with a very pleasant attitude (even making my request in Korean) and was met with a response that I can only describe as "icy" with an overwhelming hit of "get the &*#% out of here". |
I'm in the same boat (left Korea in August, currently residing in Virginia) and am sorry to hear this. Any idea what State has to authenticate the form? (hopefully the answer is "any") I wonder why having the forms notarized isn't sufficient... |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| I was at the pension office today and asked them, and they really don't care about contract dates. They can find out from immi if you really left before they deposit any money. |
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