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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Asian drug laws. Reply with quote

Why are Asian drug laws so strict when prostitution, human rights laws are so lax?

Why do citizens of the Phillipines, Thailand etc. still break the law when the penalties are very harsh?

Marijuana, for example, doesn't seem to be that more desirable than alcohol. Personally, I wouldn't risk alcohol for a five year prison sentence, let alone the death penalty(Davao in Philippines) or worse, life in an Asian prison.

If you look at the statistics for a country such as Philippines, there are millions of drug users. Why not alcohol as their drug of choice?
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: Asian drug laws. Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:
Why are Asian drug laws so strict when prostitution, human rights laws are so lax?

Why do citizens of the Phillipines, Thailand etc. still break the law when the penalties are very harsh?

Marijuana, for example, doesn't seem to be that more desirable than alcohol. Personally, I wouldn't risk alcohol for a five year prison sentence, let alone the death penalty(Davao in Philippines) or worse, life in an Asian prison.

If you look at the statistics for a country such as Philippines, there are millions of drug users. Why not alcohol as their drug of choice?


the world is off it's rocker..
the tyrants who control this world make laws as they please..
marijuana was prohibited to keep the MEXICANS from profitting everyone knows that, governments of the world are just waiting for USA or BRITAN to drop the marihuana laws and start cultivating, distributing it and most of all TAXING IT.. once profits are being made for the government and less spending on trying to enforce it, all other countries will follow...

pretty much everyone looks to USA... but its happening slowly.look at denver.. 1 dollar fine for being caught with marijuana...
some states they put you in prison still...

OTC drugs are more lethal than weed and its ok becuase BIG PARMA are in the pockets with politicans and getting kick backs.. drug dealers have politicans in their pockets, and promise to not kill their children as long as their shipments still come through..

imagine how many bottles of SOJU are consumed in Korea in a night..
if weed was in this country, MAN I bet the whole country would turn to it.. especially bored house wives...

might chill these people down too...

but yeah man.. I hear ya... we are still living a paranoid time..
still living the smoke of WORLD WAR 2, once the smoke clears I think it will get better.. but that might take another 100 years...
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying itaewonguy. I was wondering why people in the Philippines/Asia take the risk, not why government choose to make it illegal (separate issue).

Why do people choose marijuana over alcohol when the penalty is so great?

I know why people in my country choose marijuana, because the law isn't severely enforced.

Do Filipinos sell marijuana to America? How about Burma, Afghanistan, Mexico, Thailand etc.? It stumps me to think of how drug dealers in the Philippines can be making $5billion + a year. Where is the market?
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People use marijuana because it works
I wouldn't guess that drug dealers from the Philippines are making 5 billion. Where did you get that number??

Afgans sell opium to the US (and other countries that demand it)

I would suppose Asian drug laws are so high because of the theory many prohibitionists share: make the law strong enough and eventually people will not act against it. This is a lazy approach and the countries choose not to use the 'health' option when combating illegal drug use (Step 1 would admit there is a problem with their own citizens and said 'drug', which may mean loss of face)
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asia's fear of drugs is a result of what the English did to the Chinese when they sold them cheap opium back in the day--nearly destroying Chinese society.
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
People use marijuana because it works
I wouldn't guess that drug dealers from the Philippines are making 5 billion. Where did you get that number??


Under 'II. Status of Country' (2001) from the following web page:

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwhtxt1.html
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lady? woman? girl? ect. ect. is common the streets of Kuala Lumpur, but if narcotics police were to get you for illicit drugs, you are toast. I mean you are a dead man, caning and long prison term at best. This is the law of such a cool awesome place otherwise. Taiwan, drugs=death penalty as well.

It's their concept of being good Westernized global citizen states. That's all this nonsense is about. They want to project an image of purity and previous American anti-drug messages and imperial power did it. Foolish to destroy people over smoking a J.

Despite such harsh laws, drugs like MaryJ are available in most Asian countries and the locals get their freak on. I'm not going to push it as Amsterdam is right around the corner as well as the good ol' US of A. I just said no to 30 drug dealers tonight and 40 girlie pushers before getting on to say HI to Korea.
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OnTheOtherSide



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a major reason Asian countries outlaw weed to control the people.

They don't want a bunch of laid back, artistic, free-thinking stoners everywhere. They want serious, focused, hard workers who will work themselves to death and boost the nations economies into competition.

The herb is not exactly conducive to this. Alcohol, nicotine and caffiene are great for this though so they fill the countries up with these.

It's just all about the Government controlling the people. Using people as slaves instead of giving them human rights.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OnTheOtherSide wrote:
I think a major reason Asian countries outlaw weed to control the people.

They don't want a bunch of laid back, artistic, free-thinking stoners everywhere. They want serious, focused, hard workers who will work themselves to death and boost the nations economies into competition.

The herb is not exactly conducive to this. Alcohol, nicotine and caffiene are great for this though so they fill the countries up with these.

It's just all about the Government controlling the people. Using people as slaves instead of giving them human rights.


So what's your theory on why NON-Asian nations outlaw weed?
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OnTheOtherSide



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
OnTheOtherSide wrote:
I think a major reason Asian countries outlaw weed to control the people.

They don't want a bunch of laid back, artistic, free-thinking stoners everywhere. They want serious, focused, hard workers who will work themselves to death and boost the nations economies into competition.

The herb is not exactly conducive to this. Alcohol, nicotine and caffiene are great for this though so they fill the countries up with these.

It's just all about the Government controlling the people. Using people as slaves instead of giving them human rights.


So what's your theory on why NON-Asian nations outlaw weed?


That's an incredibly broad question. The answer is similar though. And ItaewonGuy already said it pretty well.

In the US, pharmacuetical companies play a big role. They lobby to keep weed illegal so people will keep on paying big bucks for their pills instead. There are like 20 different factors which I am not going to take the time to write all about.
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