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[Kuros]

As long as I get my Vitamins B6, B12, and D, and eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, I'll be okay. Why? Cholesterol is not the enemy: its sugar and processed foods. Yup, 라면 is worse for you than a plate of steak (provided its grain-fed steak, and not shoved full of processed corn).

Diet and Heart Disease: Not What You Think

The Great Cholesterol Myth

The Cholesterol Myths

[Rteacher]

Meat-eating is very bad for spiritual health, though - which is ultimately way more important.

[Fox]

[Rteacher]

The Vedic version is that every plant also has a soul. Killing plants or vegetation unnecessarily also incurs karma, which is why vegetarian food and milk products should be offered first to God via prayers before being eaten.

God "eats" the offering just by hearing the prayers with His all-pervasive transcendental senses or by just glancing at it. Since God can transform matter into spirit, the offered food becomes spiritualized, and devotees become purified by eating the Lord's "remnants".

Steve Jobs of Apple mentioned in his commencement speech (2005) at Stanford University that he used to walk 7 miles across town every Sunday night to eat (spiritual food) at the Hare Krishna temple, and "he loved it".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Krishna_in_popular_culture

[Fox]

[djsmnc]

Some meat is ok, but some is unclean. I have determined that only animals that have been slaughtered by a guillotine blessed by a priest can be clean because their head is separated from the body and can't send a message to its own body because it has been removed. The head must fall into a consecrated basket which is immediately covered and carried only by a virgin male who has been circumcised at age 13 with no anesthetic. The head basket must be placed in a 2 cubit hole and covered only with soil that has never been plowed by men. The feet of the animal must be removed first, as they trample the earth and are therefore dirty. In the case of fish, they must have their fins and flippers removed first as they breach the dirty water to swim. The guillotine must then be cleaned by a female who has never seen or become aware of the existence of male genitalia. If she should discover or become aware of male genitalia during the cleaning process, she shall also have her head removed with the unclean guillotine.

[Rusty Shackleford]

[DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP]

[Koveras]

I went vegetarian for eight weeks as an experiment. My muscles shrunk to a pitiful size, a loss not offset by any spiritual benefits I could perceive. We north americans should eat less meat though; not only would it be healthier, but right there it would decrease the problems associated with factory farms.

[Pink Freud]

[bacasper]

The thread title is misleading, since the cited articles are not about vegetarianism but cholesterol.

Even if true that low cholesterol levels of a vegetarian diet are not correlated with low blood cholesterol, other reasons for vegetarianism still obtain: ecologic (it takes 20 lb of grain to produce one pound of meat - much of the Amazon rainforest destruction is due to dlearing the land to grow grains to feed livestick), economic (veggies are cheaper to purchase than meat), and spiritual (see above).

You haven't convinced me to give it up yet.

[DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP]

I thnk there's a famous quote from Einstein where he said that becomeing vegetarian would be one of the best evolutionary schoices the human race could make.

Don't have a link though.

I might try it one day just to see what it's like.

[Fox]

[Rteacher]

Even this article by an eleventh-grader gives some compelling reasons why a vegetarian diet is healthier ...

... In addition, many people believe that more protein will make them strong and is necessary for doing strenuous work; however, sports records show that vegetarian athletes surpass meat-eating athletes in events that require strength and endurance, such as running, swimming, and tennis. For instance, Pierreo Verot, a vegetarian, holds the world record for downhill endurance skiing. The world's record for distance butterfly stroke swimming is held by vegetarians James and Jonathan deDonato. Furthermore, vegetarians are more readily able to attain physical balance, mental clarity, and spiritual harmony -- factors that are critical in maintaining optimal health.

Formerly, vegetable proteins were classified as second-class, and regarded as inferior to first-class proteins of animal origin, but this distinction has now been generally discarded. It is now seen that the excessive amount of protein found in meat products is actually hazardous to health. Two diseases caused by the over-consumption of protein are osteoporosis and kidney stones.

Researchers at Michigan State University and other universities show that osteoporosis is caused by excessive protein. The more protein (especially from animal origin) a person consumes, the more calcium his or her body loses, resulting in osteoporosis. The high-protein diets cause a gradual decrease in bone density and eventually osteoporosis. The results of the study reported that by the age of 65 in the United States, vegetarian men have an average measurable bone loss of 3%; non-vegetarian men, 7%. Vegetarian women have an average measurable bone loss of 18%; non-vegetarian women, 35%. The study also shows that by the time a non-vegetarian woman reaches the age of 65, she has lost over one-third of her skeletal structure. On the contrary, older vegetarian women tend to remain active, maintain erect postures, and are less likely to fracture or break their bones.

Another problem caused by excessive protein is the production of kidney stones. Kidney stones are caused by the crystallization of the calcium that is lost from the bones in digesting the excess protein. The excessive protein consumption also results in the destruction of kidney tissue and the deterioration of the kidney itself. This is so because the kidney has to work harder to de-aminize and excrete the excess protein out of the body... www.jivdaya.org/vegetarian_diets.htm

[Fox]

He pointed out that world record holders in a small minority of events happen to be vegitarians, a nebulous claim about mental and spiritual clarity, some very unscientific data about bone loss, and then provided some information about how over-consumption of meat can be unhealthy. Nothing in that article provides serious reason to think a pure vegitarian diet is healthier.

Mind you, I don't blame him for the low quality of his paper; he's only an 11th grader. Rather, I wonder why on Earth you'd present this paper as meaningful evidence that a vegitarian diet is healthier.