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US girl abducted 18 years ago found
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medic wrote:
I checked out the news on the person who wqs abducted, and there is a lot of references to the Stockholm Syndrome and this particular case. It's a defense mechanisim along with all the others such as projecticon,denial,sublimation,repression,displacement,rationalization,intellectualization, displacement,disociation and so on.

The stockholm syndrome is the bonding of a prisoner to a captor, because of time spent with the individual, because the captor exercises power, and because a little bit of care, and concern was shown to-wards the prisoner.
Over a period of time the bonding increases maybe because the prisoner hangs onto any human attachment available for the sake of keeping his or her sanity.

The other defense mechanisim that comes into play is dissociation. It's when a person loses track of time and or themselves, and instead finds another representation of their self in order to continue in the moment. A person who disociates often loses track of time or themelves and their usual thought processes and memories. People who dissociate often have a disconnected view of themselves in their world. Time and their own self image may not flow continuously, as it does for most people. In this manner a person who dissociates can disconnect from the real world for a time and live in a diferent world that is not cluttered with thoughts feelings or memories that are unbearable. Some individuals form multiple personalities as bbyproduct of using this defense mechanisim.

Yes, although I haven't seen any evidence that this girl suffered dissociation.

Anyway, hasn't anyone seen Pedro Almodovar's great flick, Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down?
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually what I found interesting is a statement that he was originally sentenced to 50 yrs and released after 11.

What is the point of sentencing a person to an amount of time if you don't actually expect them to serve it?

If you want the person to serve 11 yrs then sentence them to it. If you want 50 yrs then make them serve it.

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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shiktang wrote:
Didn't something like this happen in Utah a while back. A young girl was absconded with by some fundamentalist mormon polygymists. Some alert policeman saw her walking down the street with her captors, and nabbed them. I know that the media did follow up on her after she was reunited with her family. Saw a photo of her at some college function on Yahoo news. It would be kinda tough to know that everywhere you went people would be talking about you. Everyone would have probably stood up and looked if she happened to pass by.


You're referring to Elizabeth Smart. And her abductors weren't Mormons (LDS aren't polygamists), they're just plain nuts. That's what's holding up the trial.
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Enrico Palazzo
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Joined: 11 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Allow me to rephrase my question:

Has said fascist, totalitarian state charged you with this or that possibly related offense, Bacasper?



hmmmmmm ???????????????? I don't know what to make of this.
Guys, keep it clean.
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Sushi



Joined: 24 Apr 2008
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking at the Wikipedia about the movie "Tie Me Up Tie Me down." It's story is about a guy who captures a youg girl and actually gets her to fall in love with him.

In this case maybe there was some sort of a relationship, after the first child was born. Responsibility, natural maternal instincts and of course a bonding to the father of her child (an unfortunate bonding at that). Begs the question of where was the first baby born, or was it a home birth.

What kind of cretin was the guys wife. Why did she go along with it.

There was another movie on similar lines out sometime ago. Setting was world war two. Woman in a concentration camp is dragged off the commandants quarters and pretty much rapped. As the story progresses the captive woman prisoner develops feelings for her captor, because she sees a more humane side to him raher than the brutish qualities he normally displays. in the meantime the guy who really loves the woman prisoner searches for her after the war. When he finds her she has a son in the splitting image of his father the former prison commandant. Guy searching for her knew what the commandant looked like too. She pleaded for him to understand, but of course he can't, and turns around and leaves.
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Shiktang



Joined: 10 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another defense mechanism the poor kid might have used

Introjection: The process of assimilation of the picture of an object (as the individual conceives the object to be). For example, when a person becomes depressed due to the loss of a loved one, his feelings are directed to the mental image he possesses of the loved one.

I got the feeling the poor girl wore heself out just trying to cope. There would have been heartache not knowing where her parents where, and then a numbness of sorts as the resignation set in. An order would have been established and then who knows. Things happened of course the rightness or wrongness of which she would not have known nor would she have had control over.

Young children like her would attach themselves to the nearest human being who would show any act of kindness. Regardless of wether the act of kindness was self serving or not.
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Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest news is that the child was actually rapped immediately by both the absconders. Geeze. She would have been totally disempowered. The guy went off for treatment of sorts, and the child was left with his wife. She was supposed to have been very caring for the child afterwards. Talk about sickos. The children were born at the home, as the woman was a nuse of sorts.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Jaycee Dugard Reply with quote

It gets worse:

Cadaver dogs indicate possible remains on Garrido property

Ilene Misheloff ,13, went missing in 1989; Michaela Garecht, 9, in 1988.
Jaycee Dugard at least walked way.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/17/california.kidnapping/
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