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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:11 am Post subject: A warning from my recruiter |
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Should I actually take this message serious? This is what my recruiter just sent me about immigration. i will be sure to call them first thing tomorrow morning myself.
Ken,
I and the school got calls from the immigration today. They told me that they found you�re still in Korea now and asked me when you go back to the states. They told me you should leave by the 11th and if not, you would be in a big trouble. They know you ran away from your old school last time as well (they talked with your old director as well) and you also had a problem with the school in Ulsan this time too. They kept calling me and asking me about where you�re living and when you leave. And they also checked if you paid back your airfare to the school as the contract of the school says.
So I talked to them you would do soon by Friday and I just reassured them. So I need to talk with your wife.
How do you contact your wife if she can�t use a computer or something? She calls you? If so, why doesn�t she call me?
You and your wife should tell me about what you will do regarding money and your plans but I don�t know why I should keep contacting you and ask these questions continually. I can just ignore this situation and there�s no reason I should help you even if you would be a big trouble with the immigration but I�m trying to help you just because you�re my teacher and I still want to believe that you�re a good person.
So let me know your plans. I might not be able to help you anymore but I will try my best now. I can be just paid back from you and your wife after I lend some money to you. Your wife promised me she would do and she really wanted me to trust you and her. So I made a decision I would help you like this.
Answer two questions please.
1. When will you leave for the states? I should know that exactly so I can talk with the immigration and put you in a safer status. I talked to them you would leave soon and looking into the flights. You will leave as soon as your wife prepares the return airfare for you? I was told from your wife that your mother prepared the return airfare. Let me know your plans. I don�t like talking with the immigration people about this issue continually. I don�t want you to be in a big trouble here. When I take all situations into consideration, you should go back to the states first and then get a job again or something. The immigration people talked to me they would keep checking if you leave by the 11th.
2. And you must have talked with your wife. What did your wife say about sending $500? It�s September 3rd and it�s the date your wife promised me. I can�t hear from your wife and you also didn�t mention anything about money. I should prepare all money for you? The immigration will also check if you paid back the airfare to the school or not. You should say something. You made this situation but why I�m trying to deal with this matter only here? I just want to give up everything, but I still believe that you�re a good person and want to help you if I can. When you talk with your wife, please tell her she should call me and when she can send me $500 first so I can prepare the rest of money.
Answer me quickly. You shouldn�t put me in this trouble because I really did everything I could do for you.
I will be waiting for your quick response.
xxxxx |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: |
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You sir are either the biggest troll, the biggest loser or the biggest ass I have ever seen. Quite possibly all three. |
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Yeah thanks, now a serious answer please. Can immigration really stop me from leaving the country in this situation? |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Just go. Sure fire way to tell.
If you owe this recruiter money, and you don't have any, and your terrified of trouble, I wouldn't suggest contacting him. At this point, just based on the few things I've read from you, I wouldn't tell anybody when I'm leaving. Just go get on a plane and leave. The longer you stay, the more trouble you're generating.
I could be wrong, but I doubt seriously immigration is in the business of trying to track deadbeat TESOLers or any other deadbeats. They aren't a collection agency. They care about people being in the country legally or illegally.
I do imagine that if the money amount is high enough, someone or some entity can go through the courts and have your passport flagged, but I doubt it at this level.
But - regardless - there is only one way to find out. Go. You need to go.
The longer you stay, the more time you give to whoever you owe money to to track you down or cause problems for you.
Pack your bags and leave... |
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: |
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iggyb wrote: |
Just go. Sure fire way to tell.
If you owe this recruiter money, and you don't have any, and your terrified of trouble, I wouldn't suggest contacting him. At this point, just based on the few things I've read from you, I wouldn't tell anybody when I'm leaving. Just go get on a plane and leave. The longer you stay, the more trouble you're generating.
I could be wrong, but I doubt seriously immigration is in the business of trying to track deadbeat TESOLers or any other deadbeats. They aren't a collection agency. They care about people being in the country legally or illegally.
I do imagine that if the money amount is high enough, someone or some entity can go through the courts and have your passport flagged, but I doubt it at this level.
But - regardless - there is only one way to find out. Go. You need to go.
The longer you stay, the more time you give to whoever you owe money to to track you down or cause problems for you.
Pack your bags and leave... |
I have a ticket for a certain date within the next 5 days. Can't change it. |
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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iggyb wrote: |
Just go. Sure fire way to tell.
If you owe this recruiter money, and you don't have any, and your terrified of trouble, I wouldn't suggest contacting him. At this point, just based on the few things I've read from you, I wouldn't tell anybody when I'm leaving. Just go get on a plane and leave. The longer you stay, the more trouble you're generating.
I could be wrong, but I doubt seriously immigration is in the business of trying to track deadbeat TESOLers or any other deadbeats. They aren't a collection agency. They care about people being in the country legally or illegally.
I do imagine that if the money amount is high enough, someone or some entity can go through the courts and have your passport flagged, but I doubt it at this level.
But - regardless - there is only one way to find out. Go. You need to go.
The longer you stay, the more time you give to whoever you owe money to to track you down or cause problems for you.
Pack your bags and leave... |
Dammnit, I told her when I was leaving. Would it be a bad idea to contact immigration on this matter? |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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kentucker4 wrote: |
iggyb wrote: |
Just go. Sure fire way to tell.
If you owe this recruiter money, and you don't have any, and your terrified of trouble, I wouldn't suggest contacting him. At this point, just based on the few things I've read from you, I wouldn't tell anybody when I'm leaving. Just go get on a plane and leave. The longer you stay, the more trouble you're generating.
I could be wrong, but I doubt seriously immigration is in the business of trying to track deadbeat TESOLers or any other deadbeats. They aren't a collection agency. They care about people being in the country legally or illegally.
I do imagine that if the money amount is high enough, someone or some entity can go through the courts and have your passport flagged, but I doubt it at this level.
But - regardless - there is only one way to find out. Go. You need to go.
The longer you stay, the more time you give to whoever you owe money to to track you down or cause problems for you.
Pack your bags and leave... |
Dammnit, I told her when I was leaving. Would it be a bad idea to contact immigration on this matter? |
The immigration website says the only reason they will prevent you from leaving is things involving crimes, either on trial or under investigation or serving jail time (jail break?), you owe taxes (it even says over 50 mil), or if you are undermining korea national security, economics, or national interests.
I don't think your hagwon/recruiter/someone losing 1 mil is considered harming national interests.
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:21 am Post subject: |
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If she is lying, then she truly is one evil b%%^. I think I need to talk to immigration myself and see just what is going on.
Before I was sick, the schoolupfronted me 300,000 won and did pay for a hospital visit. It was actuyally a decent school and director. But I got really sick and they fired me. Anyways, could they cite these as crimes...owing 300,000 won and hospital costs?
I offered to work there again after I was fired and feeling a little stronger. They said no thanks of course. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:28 am Post subject: |
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kentucker4 wrote: |
If she is lying, then she truly is one evil b%%^. I think I need to talk to immigration myself and see just what is going on.
Before I was sick, the schoolupfronted me 300,000 won and did pay for a hospital visit. It was actuyally a decent school and director. But I got really sick and they fired me. Anyways, could they cite these as crimes...owing 300,000 won and hospital costs?
I offered to work there again after I was fired and feeling a little stronger. They said no thanks of course. |
Those aren't crimes. Those are lawsuits at best. When they say crimes, they mean things you can serve time for, like theft, burglary, rape, murder, assault maybe? |
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Carla wrote: |
kentucker4 wrote: |
If she is lying, then she truly is one evil b%%^. I think I need to talk to immigration myself and see just what is going on.
Before I was sick, the schoolupfronted me 300,000 won and did pay for a hospital visit. It was actuyally a decent school and director. But I got really sick and they fired me. Anyways, could they cite these as crimes...owing 300,000 won and hospital costs?
I offered to work there again after I was fired and feeling a little stronger. They said no thanks of course. |
Those aren't crimes. Those are lawsuits at best. When they say crimes, they mean things you can serve time for, like theft, burglary, rape, murder, assault maybe? |
Thanks for the input. That is some good peace of mind. |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Immigration doesn't care about people who are leaving the country. Just go. Best of luck with the next adventure.. |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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I think I need to talk to immigration myself and see just what is going on. |
Sometimes - it's hard to believe this isn't a troll jerking our chain... |
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:53 am Post subject: |
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iggyb wrote: |
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I think I need to talk to immigration myself and see just what is going on. |
Sometimes - it's hard to believe this isn't a troll jerking our chain... |
I'm not a troll and another poster on here who I met by chance in real life can verify that. Losing touch I think is his screen name. A nice guy who was also down on his luck when I met him. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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kentucker4 wrote: |
iggyb wrote: |
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I think I need to talk to immigration myself and see just what is going on. |
Sometimes - it's hard to believe this isn't a troll jerking our chain... |
I'm not a troll and another poster on here who I met by chance in real life can verify that. Losing touch I think is his screen name. A nice guy who was also down on his luck when I met him. |
Just one of your socks. "Losing Touch" sounds more a suitable moniker for you anyways. Many people here use their socks to support themselves. Pathetic.
Without a doubt, a troll. Probably get another 8 pager out of this. I will give you credit though...you sure know what buttons to push to get noobs chatting.
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I can buy it, but you seem to take the exact wrong action in so many described situations, it can be hard to believe someone isn't sitting down mapping out what story to tell next...
Anyway, the worst I can picture happening to you at the airport is that either the ticket check in people or an immigration official the check in people take you to will inform you that you've been flagged and can't come back to Korea and then they'll cross out your Visa page.
I had something like that happen in the 1990s: I left a school 6 months early, after giving notice and waiting for a replacement, because my grandfather had died a few months before and I wanted to be home.
When I returned to Korea, I was on the old Visa - they had not canceled it.
I got a new job and the guy waited until just after the old visa expired to send me on the visa run to Japan.
I was stopped at the counter, probably by a fairly new guy, because he seemed to think my being over a couple of days was a big deal, but when he took me to immigration, the guy just nodding, said fine, and went back to his lunch.
All I had done was show them my round trip ticket to Osaka and some visa paperwork and explain what happened.
The guy at the counter kept telling me if I didn't get a new visa I couldn't come back to Korea because I'd be stopped at the airport. I don't know what magic word he wanted to show I understood, because I kept explaining I was doing a visa run... |
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