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beckett
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: Muay thai |
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Anyone reccomend some muay thai gyms in seoul I am a complete novice but would be interested in taking up this martial art. I live in Dunchon in Gangdong
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand why study a Thai form of fighting in Korea. Why not study Tae Kwon Do? I also find it ironic because most Thai People consider practicing or doing MuyThai kind of low class. Tae Kwon Do is popular for it's aerobic nature and can be practiced as an exercise and not just a fighting form. However, MuyThai is purely a way to fight. Unless you study some Western bastardized version like ThaiBo. |
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dharma bum

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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you might have answered your own question there. muay thai's a pure fighting form, so i'm guessing the op's just looking to learn how to fight if that's the discipline he/she has chosen to pursue...
also, to answer the original question, i've heard of one gym up near sungshin women's university and another in yongsan. there's also a gym out in the sinchon/hongdae area. i can provide further information if you're interested... |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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frankly speaking wrote: |
I don't understand why study a Thai form of fighting in Korea. Why not study Tae Kwon Do? I also find it ironic because most Thai People consider practicing or doing MuyThai kind of low class. Tae Kwon Do is popular for it's aerobic nature and can be practiced as an exercise and not just a fighting form. However, MuyThai is purely a way to fight. Unless you study some Western bastardized version like ThaiBo. |
Why on earth do you think that taekwando is good aerobic exercise and Muay Thai is not? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A good Muay Thai gym will work you much harder than most Taekwando gyms. The only important difference between the two is that you actually learn a fighting skill in Muay Thai unlike Taekwando. The fact that you learn how to fight doesn't magically stop it from being aerobic exercise all of a sudden.
Next, why do you care if high class Thais think Muay Thai is low class? I don't know about the OP but I don't give a F*** what Thais think of the exercise I choose to do, especially living here in Korea.
Furthermore I think most Koreans would think it's pretty low class to be, say, a Taekwando teacher. A world champion might earn some respect but the average Taekwandoist is poor and low class and regarded as such in Korea.
I highly recommend learning Muay Thai. You can find gyms near you by doing a search on Naver maps; though you will need help from your friendly neighbourhood Korean if you don't know any of the language. |
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BrassMonkey
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Thread starter. Muay Thai is alive and well in Korea. For a gym in your local area following this link http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/ and going to the Korean forum is a good place to start.
Also put 무에타이 (Muay Thai) into a naver search with the name of local areas. Something will probably pop up though you'll probably need someone to help you translate.
Good luck with your training, in one of the most intense, tested and physically demanding stand up combat styles there is! Sawadee Khap!
As far as Frankly Speaking comments go, so much I feel like saying, so certain it would be so pointless. I'll just put a link featuring a Muay Thai fighters knee strikes being measured and MMA legend and former dutch Muay Thai champion Bas Ruttens Kicks being measured.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjPnLjvvrs
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Darkray16
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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frankly speaking wrote: |
I don't understand why study a Thai form of fighting in Korea. Why not study Tae Kwon Do? I also find it ironic because most Thai People consider practicing or doing MuyThai kind of low class. Tae Kwon Do is popular for it's aerobic nature and can be practiced as an exercise and not just a fighting form. However, MuyThai is purely a way to fight. Unless you study some Western bastardized version like ThaiBo. |
Obviously this poster has never been in a sparring session with Muay Thai and repeats whatever pro-Taekwondo propaganda that was told to him. |
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Davew125
Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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i trained at a great gym near sungshin womens university about a year back, before i moved south. My Geograpical knowledge of Seoul isnt what it used to be but if thats anywhere near you then PM me and i'll give you a few more details. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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One of the reasons why you don't see a lot of good TKD guys fighting outside of TKD is that they get paid really well to fight Gyorigi style rules in the Korean pro circuit, have their own gym or they are teaching in the army.
That being said, Muai Thai is superior to TKD in a one on one context to a large degree. I often find the debate over martial arts here a little over the top. Each art has merits and demerits. In self defense, I think the most practical art is pure boxing, but I practice TKD for it's flexibility, philosphy and the fact that it focuses on leg conditioning.
It really depends on what you want and if a good gym is nearby.
I'd love to give Muai Thai a try, but I enjoy TKD a great deal as well. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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In a pure one on one fight, Muay Thai is far superior to many fighting styles, including TKD. And the poster dissing Muay Thai doesn't know much about it. Muay Thai wouldn't be the most popular sport in Thailand if so many Thais considered it "low." Even if they did, why would that affect your desire to learn it?
As for gyms near Gangdong, I found two with a Naver search.
정무관무에타이전문도장 02-428-2878
승리관 02-478-0212 - This one's a MMA gym so it might not be exactly what you're looking for. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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riverboy wrote: |
One of the reasons why you don't see a lot of good TKD guys fighting outside of TKD is that they get paid really well to fight Gyorigi style rules in the Korean pro circuit, have their own gym or they are teaching in the army.
That being said, Muai Thai is superior to TKD in a one on one context to a large degree. I often find the debate over martial arts here a little over the top. Each art has merits and demerits. In self defense, I think the most practical art is pure boxing, but I practice TKD for it's flexibility, philosphy and the fact that it focuses on leg conditioning.
It really depends on what you want and if a good gym is nearby.
I'd love to give Muai Thai a try, but I enjoy TKD a great deal as well. |
Professional taekwondo? You mean members of the national team? Because I've never heard of pro taekwondo in Korea. Please elaborate if you can.
I studied taekwondo for three years, and I can say it's pretty useless as a fighting art. It's good if you wanna get in shape, but don't expect anything more than that.
As for boxing, it's a great skill to have but to say it's the best self-defense form is BS. Boxing is ONE key skill to have if you are fighting someone. Don't forget, one former judo champ in UFC learned just a little boxing to get close to his opponent and then finished the job on the ground.
Seriously, forget taekwondo. Even the best of them get owned by lesser martial artists. |
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beckett
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help and feedback lads! |
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BrassMonkey
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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beckett
Expect to pay upwards of 80 000won per month.
If you get serious about training I seriously recommend you check out www.rosstraining.com The conditioning books are great. I also feel that a scientific approach to sport is not always all it could be in Korea. I think you will be able to find someone with decent knowledge of Muay Thai but they may have ideas about diet and conditioning which I would personally question.
My old (Korean) trainer, who I respected and valued as a trainer, recommended I eat chocolate a a couple of hours before fighting for "energy." I politely disagreed! I achieved some things I was very happy as a Thai boxer last year. That was a combined result of following my trainers technical advice while implimenting my own condition program based heavily around the ideas from the Infinite Intensity book on Ross Enamite's website.
Hope this is useful. All the best! |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Professional taekwondo? You mean members of the national team? Because I've never heard of pro taekwondo in Korea. Please elaborate if you can.
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Nope, there is a profesional circuit with sponsers and everything. There are team versions and even a small circuit where punching is allowed. All of it sponsored by the big corporations.
I nere said boxing is the best, I said it is the most practical; punch a guy really hard in the face and he usually does not want to fight any more or is lying on the ground. It is faster than a Judo, throw or a submission hold. Kicking is great too, but leaves you off balance.
The latest trend in MMA is boxing simply based on the fact that hands are faster and more accurate. To say the Tae Kwon Do isn
t good in a street fight is a little unfair in my opinion. I front kick to the balls is pretty damn practical. As for the mobility of a TKD guy, it is great for defense as well.
I'd recommend TKD for beginners and then go into another form of martial arts any day, or vice versa.
As I already said, they all have merit |
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Forbidden-Donut
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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frankly speaking wrote: |
Why not study Tae Kwon Do? |
gee, I dont know....maybe because its more or less useless in an actual fight? |
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gakduki
Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Location: Passed out on line 2 going in circles
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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There is a Muay Thai gym in Bangbae dong, and the same guy owns one in Daechi Dong and somewhere north of the river. Just search Muay Thai in Seoul on google, you will find people talking about various locations in other Daves threads and more. Better yet, get a Korean co-worker to run a NAVER search for you.
For those fools defending TaeKwonDo, get your head out of your I Love Everything Korean World and do some research. After practicing Muay Thai for a month you could beat a TaeKwonDo person who has been practicing for a year, given same size and flexibility. In an actual fight given no prior training.
Muay Thai strikes with the elbows, knees, legs, and hands. (Elbows may not be taught in the first month) Muay Thai targets the most vital points only, the floating rib cage, just about the knee and face. The blocking is done with the shins and the outter arms. Its meant for Combat. While you are traing for Muay Thai you are doing mostly one on one sparing and target striking. You do not all line up and do fancy kicks and combos with limited practicality. TaeKwonDo Is a martial ART. |
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