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broken76 · Joined: 27 Jan 2008

As far as I know afterschool programs are paid for by the parents and not the school board (taxes). The school will simply receive basic overhead: rent for the classroom as well as electricity which is cheap.
Since it's held at a school the tuition is lower than at a hagwon but usually there is no set system (only a system that the teacher uses) and there is no busing (since it's close by). Many parents actually feel that it's an inferior product since it isn't being run by a hagwon.
The majority of the jobs are run through 3rd party companies that provide teachers while receiving the fees from the school. The teacher technically works for the school but again most of the money and paperwork is done by the company.
This creates opportunities for companies to be shady in their practices and there have been many cases of teachers being cheated out of their money but I'm sure there are reputable companies around.
I'd like to add for DJTwoTOne that isn't your business model what any business in the world does?

Ruby's Mom · Joined: 15 Aug 2009

This was a very interesting discussion. Hopefully the afterschool position I'm going for is a good one. 2.8 million won (this is housing including) monthly for working hours, 11am-6pm. Teaching starts from 1pm. I'm assuming 2hr prep-time.

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

mocsen · Joined: 30 Aug 2009

Ruby, is your afterschool program in Seoul? 2.8 million is a lot to pay for an afterschool program. I work in one now and the pay is 2.3 million including housing. At my company which staffs Seoul elementary school afterschool program pay maxes out at 2.6 million. I did get an offer to work an afterschool program in Namyangju of 2.7 million including housing included but knocked it back because I prefered the seoul gig and didn't need the money like that.

The work is pretty easy by the way, teaching hours are generally 1-5pm. The only kind of bad thing about it is that there is a bit of pressure to maintain numbers. Its only you and the Korean co-teacher and if numbers are low or fall they can get on your back about. Not a problem at my school but I know people who work at other afterschool programs whose student numbers have fallen and they will send someone to sit in on all their classes to see what you are doing. It causes them a great deal of stress and I know a guy who did a runner because of it. If your numbers are low or falling it can be a pretty crappy work environment.

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

blue.sky · Joined: 31 Aug 2009 Location: a box on the 15th floor

I just turned down an offer from one of these for 3.2m but no housing/airfare/severance benefits - about the same pay as a hakwon all things considered. It was a 6 month gig only but the contract was pretty vague and I didn't like the lack of detail about working hours - only that I was to work "as instructed by the company" running the programme.

It was 1-7pm so that's 30 hours/week + unpaid mandatory prep time. Around the same as a hagwon minus the Since I understand that public schools cannot make a profit from their operations, there must be a lot of extra money sloshing around here somewhere as their marketing literature suggests similar prices for enrollment as hakwons.

RufusW · Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Location: Busan

I'm working at a public school, there were extra classes run by someone like you, but he left. So they asked me whether I wanted to do it. It's YBM. They're not paying me a huge amount, but it's within my school hours and brings my pay up a fair amount - my total classes are still below 22.

It doesn't seem like they're expecting much except a white face to say to the parents tht's what you're getting. Also, I know the students, so it's a little easier.

2.8 sounds tasty for 12-6.

Ruby's Mom · Joined: 15 Aug 2009

arice05 · Joined: 29 Aug 2009 Location: Dongducheon

I just had a second interview with a school for an after school program at a public elementary school. From what I've read, I'm starting to get really nervous! I've just emailed my recruiter (Cindy Park from Good English) and asked her the school's name, and if I can talk to the current foreign teacher, or at least have their email. I'm applying for my F4 visa once I get to Korea; I've already sorted out the paperwork and am working with G.O.A.'L to get the visa. The job offer is as follows and is in Incheon:

Time schedule is 11-6( 11-12 for perp time, 12-1 for lunch time, 1-6 for teaching time)
The level of students is elementary.
Housing is single.
Salary is negotiable.
Starting time is late September/late October

However, Cindy Park later told me that the start date is just late September...any opinions?

vassalage · Joined: 12 Jun 2006

I got offered a position for 2.6 including housing allowance but no airfare or pension or health mentioned in the contracts. Just wondering if all you afterschool guys have got airfare with your contracts? Also what the deal was with pension and health insurance?
I have also been given permission to work another job in the morning legally with it added to my visa...just wondering if the companies actually allow it once you sign a contract...that is the big draw for me to sign with an afterschool gig...

arice05 · Joined: 29 Aug 2009 Location: Dongducheon

vassalage,

i got airfare and housing in my contract. my manager is even purchasing my ticket, so i don't have to worry about being reimbursed! i also got pension and medical insurance stated in my contract (50/50). in my contract, it says that i can't work for anyone else, but i'm not sure if that's b/c if for an e-2 visa or what. i am getting an f-4 visa, but either way i don't see myself working for 2 places at the same time.

eslteacherlooking · Joined: 12 Oct 2008

Questions:

If you are a public school teacher and there is an after school program at your school do you need a new contract to work for the after school program? Or are you considered working overtime?

winterfall · Joined: 21 May 2009

dirving · Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Location: South Korea

[quote="arice05"]I just had a second interview with a school for an after school program at a public elementary school. From what I've read, I'm starting to get really nervous! I've just emailed my recruiter (Cindy Park from Good English) and asked her the school's name, and if I can talk to the current foreign teacher, or at least have their email. I'm applying for my F4 visa once I get to Korea; I've already sorted out the paperwork and am working with G.O.A.'L to get the visa. The job offer is as follows and is in Incheon:

Time schedule is 11-6( 11-12 for perp time, 12-1 for lunch time, 1-6 for teaching time)
The level of students is elementary.
Housing is single.
Salary is negotiable.
Starting time is late September/late October

However, Cindy Park later told me that the start date is just late September...any opinions?[/quote

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