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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Let's start protecting our jobs Reply with quote

I'm all for helping people out but seriously, this stuff has to stop: Helping people you never met, know nothing about, finding jobs in Korea.

Where else in the world can some unknown dweeb post anonymously "help me find a job" and a bunch of people will give them leads, refs, etc...

Make these people earn their jobs dog garnit! It's getting more competitive here and I really wish people would stop offering job leads, advice to people they know nothing about.

I've had to bust my tail for every job I've ever had (except this one). The person you help now could very well be the person that gets the next great job instead of you.


Last edited by Zulethe on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:17 pm; edited 1 time in total
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zulethe,

Have you considered a visit to the local 'barber shop'? I think you're overdue... Wink
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iggyb



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is your first job in Korea? And you've got the "circle" thing down pat...Fast adapter...
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Let's make something perfectly clear since Dave's readers generally don't have very good reading skills.

Gee golly!! Can't wait to follow your direction so you might consider me to be perhaps one rung above whale poop in the great chain of being....

Seriously. Great attitude. And I'm not even talking about the "Stop helping your fellow man!!!" spiel.......I'm talking about going out of your way to insult people you want to enlist in a project.....Bravo....
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen the latest US unemployment figures?

The U3 is at 9.7 percent.

The U6 is at 17 percent. 17 percent!

Expect more people coming to Korea in the future.
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raewon



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The person you help now could very well be the person that gets the next great job instead of you.


Indeed. Or that person you help now could return the favor later in life.


If you are (or ever have been) a teacher in Korea, I would be interested in knowing whether or not the use of all caps helps improve the reading comprehension skills of your students.
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Changwon Charlie



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every job (baring the first) I ever had in korea was through people giving me tips, an inside track or helping me out.

I have no problem helping out people as well as it has worked out very well for me.

OP, you sound very bitter. maybe it is time to make some friends.
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thoreau



Joined: 21 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can grow the pie.
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I edited my post so not to put off anybody else. This goes against every fiber in my being by the way.

I'm talking about some guy or girl, first time poster etc...that may be a total nut job.

I'd help some posters just based on their posts i.e., if they have enough, one can generally read something into their personality etc...But some guy/gal straight off the street, no way. I think, just like everywhere else, one should have to earn their stripes not have it given to them.
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is every monkey for his or herself. A newbie has little chnce of securing the gigs us longer termers have access to anyway.
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe if the jobs were better and we were getting paid more than $10 dollars an hour, I'd be willing to agree with you. What do I care if the idiots of the world come here to teach? I think that's a great idea. Maybe then Koreans will start treating the good, qualified teachers with some respect for a change (hah). Until the jobs get better, I think nutjobs have as much right to work here as you do.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldtactics wrote:
Maybe then Koreans will start treating the good, qualified teachers with some respect for a change (hah).

"I have a dream..." (and then they shot him).
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will give people advice if I want to. Don't like it, stop reading this board.

I would be amazed if someone I gave advice to took a job I was after. It could happen, but the odds are against it. Lately I have been giving advice to people interested in International Schools. There are always openings for jobs. I don't see some friendly advice as cutting my own foot off.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the OP a little. The one that is really bothering me is we help some people but they do nothing for themselves. Got most of the time you see new message of PLEASE HELP ME you look at the OPs sign up date is maybe two days before.

I am getting sick and tired of rehashing the the same answers to the same questions. Why should I be bother to answer a stupid question when half the time the person did none of their own leg work or used their brain.

Like a few days ago a friend of a friend posted here and said she quit her job , found another, and low and behold found she was staying in Korea illegally and would have to pay a fine, and her job is all ruined. Know if you friends had been smart enough to do here own research and had maybe read some korean blogs and forums she would know that you can not quit your job here in Korea like back home.

A little knowledge goes a long ways.

Try another a girl wants to use a sick day as a a vacation day while off in Japan. If the girl had a little sense she would know that sick days in Korea are not like sick days back home. You can maybe do it but expect to have troubles to come up.

What I would love to see happen is people come to ESL cafe before things go wrong. Educate yourself! Read some blogs people, read ESL cafe, learn to search for yourself, hell look at the Korean Government websites, most of the time they are in English!

Here is my first hint for new people learn to search the forums

using the following line at Google.com. Rarely use the inbuilt search it usually craps out or sucks.

site:forums.eslcafe.com/korean "Criminal Record Check"

SO overall be part of the community NOW not when things go hard for you.

Like "John Lennon" who is not yet here in Korea but he is learning and asking question before things go wrong. Heck the man just introducted himself.

In Endning Rant I think we need to start replying to some people with

RTFF - Read the F&*&* Forums.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries. The true nimrods won't be able to use the best advice anyway.
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those who think that employment will pick up soon and things will be back to normal here by next year are wrong:
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Yet the report also lent credence to a deepening consensus that, even as the economy resumes expansion, the recovery was likely to be weak, prompting most companies to hold back from aggressive hiring.

�In the context of a full-blooded recovery, this report is disappointing,� said Alan Ruskin, an economist with the Royal Bank of Scotland in Stamford, Conn. �We�re still clawing our way back.�

Many experts envision a jobless recovery, in which the economy grows but job losses persist. That would reprise the end of the last recession in 2001, when payrolls continued to decline for nearly two years afterward.




http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/business/economy/05jobs.html?em

It's not just kooks saying it now; the consensus among economists is a jobless recovery. That means the competition for jobs here is not going to let up anytime soon. It's every monkey for him/herself. Smile
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