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Zulethe

Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: Let's start protecting our jobs |
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I'm all for helping people out but seriously, this stuff has to stop: Helping people you never met, know nothing about, finding jobs in Korea.
Where else in the world can some unknown dweeb post anonymously "help me find a job" and a bunch of people will give them leads, refs, etc...
Make these people earn their jobs dog garnit! It's getting more competitive here and I really wish people would stop offering job leads, advice to people they know nothing about.
I've had to bust my tail for every job I've ever had (except this one). The person you help now could very well be the person that gets the next great job instead of you.
Last edited by Zulethe on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Zulethe,
Have you considered a visit to the local 'barber shop'? I think you're overdue...  |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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This is your first job in Korea? And you've got the "circle" thing down pat...Fast adapter...
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Let's make something perfectly clear since Dave's readers generally don't have very good reading skills. |
Gee golly!! Can't wait to follow your direction so you might consider me to be perhaps one rung above whale poop in the great chain of being....
Seriously. Great attitude. And I'm not even talking about the "Stop helping your fellow man!!!" spiel.......I'm talking about going out of your way to insult people you want to enlist in a project.....Bravo.... |
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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Have you seen the latest US unemployment figures?
The U3 is at 9.7 percent.
The U6 is at 17 percent. 17 percent!
Expect more people coming to Korea in the future. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The person you help now could very well be the person that gets the next great job instead of you. |
Indeed. Or that person you help now could return the favor later in life.
If you are (or ever have been) a teacher in Korea, I would be interested in knowing whether or not the use of all caps helps improve the reading comprehension skills of your students. |
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Changwon Charlie
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Every job (baring the first) I ever had in korea was through people giving me tips, an inside track or helping me out.
I have no problem helping out people as well as it has worked out very well for me.
OP, you sound very bitter. maybe it is time to make some friends. |
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thoreau
Joined: 21 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| You can grow the pie. |
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Zulethe

Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I edited my post so not to put off anybody else. This goes against every fiber in my being by the way.
I'm talking about some guy or girl, first time poster etc...that may be a total nut job.
I'd help some posters just based on their posts i.e., if they have enough, one can generally read something into their personality etc...But some guy/gal straight off the street, no way. I think, just like everywhere else, one should have to earn their stripes not have it given to them. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea is every monkey for his or herself. A newbie has little chnce of securing the gigs us longer termers have access to anyway. |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe if the jobs were better and we were getting paid more than $10 dollars an hour, I'd be willing to agree with you. What do I care if the idiots of the world come here to teach? I think that's a great idea. Maybe then Koreans will start treating the good, qualified teachers with some respect for a change (hah). Until the jobs get better, I think nutjobs have as much right to work here as you do. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe then Koreans will start treating the good, qualified teachers with some respect for a change (hah). |
"I have a dream..." (and then they shot him). |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I will give people advice if I want to. Don't like it, stop reading this board.
I would be amazed if someone I gave advice to took a job I was after. It could happen, but the odds are against it. Lately I have been giving advice to people interested in International Schools. There are always openings for jobs. I don't see some friendly advice as cutting my own foot off. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the OP a little. The one that is really bothering me is we help some people but they do nothing for themselves. Got most of the time you see new message of PLEASE HELP ME you look at the OPs sign up date is maybe two days before.
I am getting sick and tired of rehashing the the same answers to the same questions. Why should I be bother to answer a stupid question when half the time the person did none of their own leg work or used their brain.
Like a few days ago a friend of a friend posted here and said she quit her job , found another, and low and behold found she was staying in Korea illegally and would have to pay a fine, and her job is all ruined. Know if you friends had been smart enough to do here own research and had maybe read some korean blogs and forums she would know that you can not quit your job here in Korea like back home.
A little knowledge goes a long ways.
Try another a girl wants to use a sick day as a a vacation day while off in Japan. If the girl had a little sense she would know that sick days in Korea are not like sick days back home. You can maybe do it but expect to have troubles to come up.
What I would love to see happen is people come to ESL cafe before things go wrong. Educate yourself! Read some blogs people, read ESL cafe, learn to search for yourself, hell look at the Korean Government websites, most of the time they are in English!
Here is my first hint for new people learn to search the forums
using the following line at Google.com. Rarely use the inbuilt search it usually craps out or sucks.
site:forums.eslcafe.com/korean "Criminal Record Check"
SO overall be part of the community NOW not when things go hard for you.
Like "John Lennon" who is not yet here in Korea but he is learning and asking question before things go wrong. Heck the man just introducted himself.
In Endning Rant I think we need to start replying to some people with
RTFF - Read the F&*&* Forums. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| No worries. The true nimrods won't be able to use the best advice anyway. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Those who think that employment will pick up soon and things will be back to normal here by next year are wrong:
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Yet the report also lent credence to a deepening consensus that, even as the economy resumes expansion, the recovery was likely to be weak, prompting most companies to hold back from aggressive hiring.
�In the context of a full-blooded recovery, this report is disappointing,� said Alan Ruskin, an economist with the Royal Bank of Scotland in Stamford, Conn. �We�re still clawing our way back.�
Many experts envision a jobless recovery, in which the economy grows but job losses persist. That would reprise the end of the last recession in 2001, when payrolls continued to decline for nearly two years afterward. |
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/business/economy/05jobs.html?em
It's not just kooks saying it now; the consensus among economists is a jobless recovery. That means the competition for jobs here is not going to let up anytime soon. It's every monkey for him/herself.  |
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