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What's your favorite Korean "concept"
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What is your favorite Korean "concept"
Han
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
Jeong
18%
 18%  [ 6 ]
Skinship
33%
 33%  [ 11 ]
Face
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Nunchi
30%
 30%  [ 10 ]
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gatohorrible



Joined: 02 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ur so sweet leslie u remind me of ' derrek' and 'tomato'

avoid denz, the man know as the spam, and on the other hand, they might try and beat u up for being a pansy.

luv
GH
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
I find it amusing that Koreans believe we can't understand things like jeong. I think it can be summed up nicely in the English word bonding.


All languages can express the same ideas and thoughts, but some have to do it in a more roundabout way. Even if another language has similar vocabulary, that doesn't mean it'll be used.

Koreans often have conversations about 'jjak sarang.' Native English speakers don't have these conversations much, so few people realize that English does have a term to cover this (unrequited love). Instead, jjak sarang is usually translated as 'one-sided love.'

I agree that 'bonding' would be a close equivalent to jeong,' it's just that native Engilsh speakers don't seem to go into this conversation very much.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jjak-sarang = unrequited love. Or stalking if you wish. Ha ha.

But seriously, I like to use logic to guide some of my charges. Some of them feel that if there is no exact word for it in our language as there is in theirs then it simply doesn't exist in our world. For example: Hyung means older brother, right? I have a younger brother. I should be his hyung. But our language has no word to express that idea. Hmm, I don't exist.
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite concept is that if a woman has more than five dates with a man she sleeps with him.
I guess if the man was reluctant at that point it would be called abnormal or "cultural differnce".

Not sure if that includes meeting the family also, but I imagine if you meet the family prior to the fifth date that negates the five date rule and you go to bed on the next date, since meeting "the family' (mom / dad) is an entirely different concept that implies marriage.

I have worked with many Koreans and they swear by the five date rule.
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weened



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: May you live to be a thousand years.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is skinship?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weened wrote:
what is skinship?


It's a word that Korean boys use to say that it's okay if they fondle each other.
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUMP! Hey remember some of these old guys/gals?
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If by favorite you mean most hated, then yeah I'd have to say nunchi. Where I work it's used as a guilt-based system of deciding what time you can go home from work every day. Every day I have to calculate "what's the earliest I can leave without making all my Korean coworkers FEEL bad and resent me?"
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember HardyandTiny, but the others are strange to me. Digging up something from 2003 is before my time though!
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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow what an old thread.

No way is "face" or any of these ideas really, unique to Korea. About as unique as the 4 seasons crap.

Here's a unique concept: The Newfie Shuffle. Only known to Newfoundlanders, cannot be understood by anyone else in the universe because NFers are special.

(All NFers nod and agree with that little self-satisfied smirk that comes from being special.)
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rchristo10



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skinship.

Give a little, take a little. Oh yeah. Cool
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Aelric



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see, everyone starts with exactly 10 face points at birth. You can lose points by having a bad reaction to anything (i.e. losing your cool over a prank), anything having a bad reaction to you (i.e. not losing your cool over a prank, therefore ruining the joke), having some physical of mental defect in yourself or your family (i.e. your son has downs, therefore you are filled with shame) or anything else at all (i.e. waking up, not waking up, living, dieing).

You can regain face in one or more of three ways:

1. Become rich through any means.

2. Attract a physically beautiful and stupid wife (brains on a wife make you lose face!)

3. Become an easily ignored cog in the great machine, keeping your head down and avoiding all interaction. Better lonely, emotionally stunted and unexceptional in every way your whole life than embarrassed for a heartbeat. Face will slowly regrow, but never increase past ten.


The concept of face has socially stifled the southeast Asian cultures. It is one cultural tradition I openly and vehemently denounce because it benefits no one, ever.
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polarbear119



Joined: 31 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are Western concepts that Koreans can't grasp either. One that comes to mind is character. Koreans don't see the purpose in doing something ethically, or honorably just for the sake of it being the proper thing to do. They will shortcut everything. They will never personally sacrifice something unless there is something in it for them. They lack this discipline and don't even see a need for it. They see character as a weakness to be exploited.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Han is being bitter and blaming others for everything bad that happened to them.

I always thought the English equivalent to Jung was "attachment." Like people say they have jung for their dog after so many years. I think you can say they are attached to their dog.
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typo



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
If by favorite you mean most hated, then yeah I'd have to say nunchi. Where I work it's used as a guilt-based system of deciding what time you can go home from work every day. Every day I have to calculate "what's the earliest I can leave without making all my Korean coworkers FEEL bad and resent me?"


I used to feel this way until about 8 months in. Technically, I"m free at 4:30, but I'd wait until 45, or sometimes 5 and then leave out of guilt. But f that. I'm irritated if I don't get outta school by 4:45 these days. I think it's probably to do with the fact that I'm not renewing, and that i put in 8 months of waiting around.

Kind of similar to how I stopped going to school cafeteria 4 months in. I put in my time, I got the cred for being able to eat korean food. But man the smell going into that place was so nauseating.
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