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GEPIK contract issue....minimum teaching hours

 
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640x480



Joined: 02 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: GEPIK contract issue....minimum teaching hours Reply with quote

There is a whole debacle between our manager and employee about minimum teaching hours.

We work at a center within a school, it's hard to explain but basically we are under the GEPIK contract.

We work a lot of over time on a consistent basis.
We are starting up our after school program again this term and a co-worker has voiced he will not teach any hour over 22 hours required in the contract.

Now, the contract (2008) I believe says that the teacher is required to work a minimum of 22 teaching hours, but may be asked to teach up to 6 hours of over time a week.

The argument is on the word "ask"...my friend says he may be asked, but he doesn't have to do anything. The manager says he must work the over time if requested.

Anyone know a definite answer to this?

Thank you~
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: GEPIK contract issue....minimum teaching hours Reply with quote

640x480 wrote:
There is a whole debacle between our manager and employee about minimum teaching hours.

We work at a center within a school, it's hard to explain but basically we are under the GEPIK contract.

We work a lot of over time on a consistent basis.
We are starting up our after school program again this term and a co-worker has voiced he will not teach any hour over 22 hours required in the contract.

Now, the contract (2008) I believe says that the teacher is required to work a minimum of 22 teaching hours, but may be asked to teach up to 6 hours of over time a week.

The argument is on the word "ask"...my friend says he may be asked, but he doesn't have to do anything. The manager says he must work the over time if requested.

Anyone know a definite answer to this?

Thank you~



The manager has it right.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is asked, he can be required to teach the 6 overtime hours. Anything past that, however, he can flat out say no to.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
If he is asked, he can be required to teach the 6 overtime hours. Anything past that, however, he can flat out say no to.


This. It might lead to some bad blood between you and your school, but you can always drop the "I need all my extra time to prepare for my classes so that I can teach more efficiently and productively"
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadwork wrote:
This. It might lead to some bad blood between you and your school, but you can always drop the "I need all my extra time to prepare for my classes so that I can teach more efficiently and productively"


Yes, this worked quite well for me. I went from eight hours to four, plus got a month of no extra classes at all. But try to suggest it rather than push for it. Or make it somehow seem like it is their idea.
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antoniothegreat



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Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you would have to check the korean version, because the english part is actually meaningless.

if the korean word is ask, your friend has a valid point. of course, i dont know korean law, but in american law the "intent" is often important too. and in korean culture the word ask means demand or tell.

of course, if the korean word is "tell, request, etc" then SOOL.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

antoniothegreat wrote:
i think you would have to check the korean version, because the english part is actually meaningless.


Yes, people need to seriously understand this. Sometimes there can be an honest mistake or just a flat out lie. If there are two versions of the same contract, the Korean version holds more weight unless otherwise stated. Now, if all you have is an English version of the contract..... Very Happy

But not everyone is that lucky, sometimes you have to deal with the Korean contracts. If you are dealing with SMOE or something like that, it's one thing. But if you are dealing with a hagwon, I wouldnt' sign a Korean contract unless I had someone fluent in Korean read it.... no.... still I would use an English contract.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If by "minimum" you mean "maximum," then you're right.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
If by "minimum" you mean "maximum," then you're right.


Which is kinda funny when I had that talk with one of my co-teachers at the beginning of the year. "You must do at least 22 classes every week" The maximum is the minimum too!
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