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South Korea�s won will gain 8 percent by year-end
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rickpidero



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: South Korea�s won will gain 8 percent by year-end Reply with quote

According to this website: http://www.wikinvest.com/wikinvest/api.php?action=viewNews&aid=324838&page=Korean_Won&format=html&comments=0

...the won will be at 1,150 by the years end. The dollar keeps dropping and dropping.

Although some have been saying the won is due for a big let down during the holidays, I guess my question is why? Is it because everyone is going to fall or is it just pessimism?
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azzwell



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith
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asmith



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

azzwell wrote:
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith


It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.

Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.

But I could be wrong.
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SOOHWA101



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asmith wrote:
azzwell wrote:
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith


It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.

Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.

But I could be wrong.


To boot, America is about to ban all LCD products from Samsung. They violated patent law, evidently. That will sting quite a bit.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's largest trading partner is China. Korea has managed over the last decade or so to diversify her partners to include China, the US and Japan in roughly equal measure, with the EU and then other countries at smaller amounts. It's the best possible strategy for a country that relies on trade for such a large portion of its economy.

Anyone who takes their economic advice for anyone on Dave's is a fool.
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T-J



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asmith wrote:
azzwell wrote:
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith


It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.

Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.

But I could be wrong.


They already have, and you are. Read above, Ya-ta beat me to the punch.
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asmith



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
asmith wrote:
azzwell wrote:
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith


It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.

Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.

But I could be wrong.


They already have, and you are. Read above, Ya-ta beat me to the punch.


I hope you are right.

But it begs the question why was the won at over 1500 in March when it looked like the American economy was going over a cliff.

If South Korea has truly decoupled from the American economy, then why did the government devalue their currency to sell stuff to Americans?

But I'm pretty stupid. What do I know?
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T-J



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong. I'm not an expert in the field by any stretch of the imagination. I think that the devaluation of the Won had much more to do with account reserves to pay loans, foreign investment contraction, and a global demand for dollars, than actual consumer consumption in the U.S.
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Pwillig



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the won is still very much dependent upon the U.S. economy. Just look at how the Euro and Yen rebounded and are near pre-crash exchange rates (the Yen being actually stronger now) to the dollar while the won is still hitting a brick wall at 1220-1290.
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steveinincheon



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The won was not premeditatively devalued, it did have a lot to do with what T-J said. I think that Korea has decoupled at least a bit from the American economy, but given that China is Korea's largest trade partner and the Chinese RMB is still pegged to the dollar, I think the USD-WON rate is still very important to Korean exporters, even if decoupling is going on.

Still, I might as well go to a fortune teller to predict the exchange rates, given the accuracy of a lot of the forecasts I've seen this past year.
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOOHWA101 wrote:
To boot, America is about to ban all LCD products from Samsung. They violated patent law, evidently. That will sting quite a bit.

Link?
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gakduki



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love all the talk about how countries should focus on China more than America. Its a great idea, 1.2 billion, most of whom spend their money on subsitnence, while America has 350 million who spend their money on frivolous electronic imports. China will one day get angry at Korea over a land dispute or something and boycott them (just to make their consumers buy their own goods.) USA would never do that. The American economy is still 3 times the size of China's and the predictions that it will be de-throwned anytime soon are just theories. They don't consider limited resources, internal political problems, markets already flooded with cheap junk etc.
As for the won, who knows what will happen to it. I heard 1200 is the new target range(they gave up on 1000) and its unlikely to fluctuate significantly from that mark over the next year.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.

You can have an internally led recovery - have enough savings so that people spend; have a reasonably high interest rate to attract overseas investment to add to internal savings ... ie, not every recovery is export led.
But then, I'm no economist.
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SOOHWA101



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
SOOHWA101 wrote:
To boot, America is about to ban all LCD products from Samsung. They violated patent law, evidently. That will sting quite a bit.

Link?




http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-samsung-sharp10-2009sep10,0,6511159.story

Quote:
Samsung had 19.9% of the U.S. market for LCD TVs in the second quarter, according to research firm ISuppli Corp. in El Segundo.


Yes, I would say the ban would sting a little.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/newspid=20601101&sid=awfmtXUXG8aI


http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/11/2009091100852.html
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOOHWA101 wrote:
cdninkorea wrote:
SOOHWA101 wrote:
To boot, America is about to ban all LCD products from Samsung. They violated patent law, evidently. That will sting quite a bit.

Link?




http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-samsung-sharp10-2009sep10,0,6511159.story

Quote:
Samsung had 19.9% of the U.S. market for LCD TVs in the second quarter, according to research firm ISuppli Corp. in El Segundo.


Yes, I would say the ban would sting a little.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/newspid=20601101&sid=awfmtXUXG8aI


http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/11/2009091100852.html


The operative word is "may". So, this LCD ban is still hypothetical.
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