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rickpidero
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azzwell
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: where the girls from Super Junior cannot find me
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith |
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asmith
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith |
It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.
Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.
But I could be wrong. |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| asmith wrote: |
| azzwell wrote: |
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith |
It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.
Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.
But I could be wrong. |
To boot, America is about to ban all LCD products from Samsung. They violated patent law, evidently. That will sting quite a bit. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Korea's largest trading partner is China. Korea has managed over the last decade or so to diversify her partners to include China, the US and Japan in roughly equal measure, with the EU and then other countries at smaller amounts. It's the best possible strategy for a country that relies on trade for such a large portion of its economy.
Anyone who takes their economic advice for anyone on Dave's is a fool. |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| asmith wrote: |
| azzwell wrote: |
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith |
It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.
Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.
But I could be wrong. |
They already have, and you are. Read above, Ya-ta beat me to the punch. |
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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| asmith wrote: |
| azzwell wrote: |
and Mr doom and gloom says....
take it away asmith |
It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.
Can it successfully decouple from America? I don't think it can.
But I could be wrong. |
They already have, and you are. Read above, Ya-ta beat me to the punch. |
I hope you are right.
But it begs the question why was the won at over 1500 in March when it looked like the American economy was going over a cliff.
If South Korea has truly decoupled from the American economy, then why did the government devalue their currency to sell stuff to Americans?
But I'm pretty stupid. What do I know? |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't get me wrong. I'm not an expert in the field by any stretch of the imagination. I think that the devaluation of the Won had much more to do with account reserves to pay loans, foreign investment contraction, and a global demand for dollars, than actual consumer consumption in the U.S. |
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Pwillig
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that the won is still very much dependent upon the U.S. economy. Just look at how the Euro and Yen rebounded and are near pre-crash exchange rates (the Yen being actually stronger now) to the dollar while the won is still hitting a brick wall at 1220-1290. |
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steveinincheon
Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Location: in The Shadows of Gyeyangsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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The won was not premeditatively devalued, it did have a lot to do with what T-J said. I think that Korea has decoupled at least a bit from the American economy, but given that China is Korea's largest trade partner and the Chinese RMB is still pegged to the dollar, I think the USD-WON rate is still very important to Korean exporters, even if decoupling is going on.
Still, I might as well go to a fortune teller to predict the exchange rates, given the accuracy of a lot of the forecasts I've seen this past year. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| SOOHWA101 wrote: |
| To boot, America is about to ban all LCD products from Samsung. They violated patent law, evidently. That will sting quite a bit. |
Link? |
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gakduki
Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Location: Passed out on line 2 going in circles
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I love all the talk about how countries should focus on China more than America. Its a great idea, 1.2 billion, most of whom spend their money on subsitnence, while America has 350 million who spend their money on frivolous electronic imports. China will one day get angry at Korea over a land dispute or something and boycott them (just to make their consumers buy their own goods.) USA would never do that. The American economy is still 3 times the size of China's and the predictions that it will be de-throwned anytime soon are just theories. They don't consider limited resources, internal political problems, markets already flooded with cheap junk etc.
As for the won, who knows what will happen to it. I heard 1200 is the new target range(they gave up on 1000) and its unlikely to fluctuate significantly from that mark over the next year. |
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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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It comes down to whether enough Americans are going to buy Korean products. This society is led by its export market.
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You can have an internally led recovery - have enough savings so that people spend; have a reasonably high interest rate to attract overseas investment to add to internal savings ... ie, not every recovery is export led.
But then, I'm no economist. |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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Konglishman

Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:20 am Post subject: |
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The operative word is "may". So, this LCD ban is still hypothetical. |
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