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[RufusW]

The great thing is that Wilson's comment will upstage the actual facts of Obama's amazing speech. The MSM will concentrate on this - and probably never even try to prove it to be false, which it is - and disregard Obama's seminal speech. This was the most important speech he's ever done.

And for all I know, someone paid Wilson to shout that out and disrupt the flow. Why not?

[Privateer]

Another great speech from Obama:

[RufusW]

He spanked Repubs 4 or 5 times... MSM won't notice though. He'll have to actually mention their leader (yea, Palin) next time.

[catchshime]

Great speaker, great leader, great man. Doing the best he can at the moment. I'm surprised he still has hair. Not all white yet either.

[bacasper]

[Pluto]

Some perspective:

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/136036.html

[bucheon bum]

[Pluto]

Well, there is this incident that happened in 1857. Still, Rep. Wilson admitted he let his emotions get the best of him and subsequently apologized. I think this whole episode is what President Obama might call a distraction.

[catman]

The tea party protesters certainly support him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ntu7Aapys&feature=popular

By the way, how far right do you have to be to consider CNN "left wing"?

[On the other hand]

I tend to be rather suspicious of complaints about supposed breaches in decorum. I doubt that very many of them are motivated by sincere concern about proper etiquette, but rather by ideological sympathy with the allegedly injured party.

If you sympathize with the beliefs of the heckler, then you describe him as "a courageous voice, unafraid to speak the truth regardless of the delicate nicities of the political establishment". But if you sympathize with the guy getting heckled, you describe the heckler as "a brutish thug, doing immesurable damage to political discourse by shouting down any opinion he happens to disagree with".

In my experience, both the Right and the Left are guilty of this sort of partisan shilling disguised as appeals to a higher value.

[mises]

And as a result of the outburst the administration has added explicit prohibitions against illegals benefiting into the language.

[Privateer]

The right-wing blogosphere swoons over Joe Wilson:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/09/president_talks.php

[bacasper]

According to this author, Wilson's comment is indicative of a widespread sentiment in the country.

Desperate and Insecure, Whites See Country Slipping Away

Posted: 2009/09/17
From: Mathaba


By Ashahed M. Muhammad

When a virtually unknown Republican Congressman, Joe Wilson from South Carolina shouted the words �You lie!� during a September 9 speech by Pres. Barack Obama, it was the latest example of the uncivil tone and rancorous atmosphere created by many of the president's opponents on the right.

In recent weeks, town hall meetings have descended into shouting matches, right wing radio and television commentators have become increasingly vituperative in their criticism, and spasmodic outbursts of rage are becoming commonplace.

Calling Rep. Wilson's blunder �an appalling lack of civility in an institution that actually prides itself on civility,� Dr. Maya Rockeymoore, president and founder of the Washington D.C.�based Global Policy Solutions, said some Whites may be experiencing anxiety as the political and social landscape of America changes rapidly.

�What is interesting here is that for decades, there was a stereotype of the angry Black male and now we are seeing something that looks like the rise of the angry White male,� the respected policy analyst and author told The Final Call. �If one were to psycho-analyze this situation it may be that in Barack Obama, you see the president of the United States symbolizing for them an end of an era, and that is an era where they were actually able to limit competition for prestigious positions, posts and opportunities just to other White men,� Dr. Rockeymoore added.

Anti-racism activist and author Tim Wise agreed, saying the severe economic downturn, a Black president, demographic shifts and a change in pop culture have been �jarring� to the collective White psyche causing widespread anger, fear and insecurity and an identity crisis among those who have enjoyed a privileged existence in America.

"It's sort of like a collective nervous breakdown on the part of large segments of White America,� said Mr. Wise, who also authored the book, Between Barack and a Hard Place: Racism and White Denial in the Age of Obama. �Looking at double digit unemployment isn't all that rare for Blacks and Latinos, but for White folks, that has not even been close to the reality since the days of The Depression, so when you have had two or three generations of Whites who have never had that kind of insecurity, that is very jarring, I'm sure for folks who have gotten used to taking for granted a fairly solid opportunity structure.�

The presence of a president of color has also been a cause for anxiety by those who have grown accustomed to being special and the symbol of importance in the dominant society, said Mr. Wise.

�Even people who are not bigots have gotten used to seeing the representative symbol of our nation (as) someone who reminds us of us�those of us who are White� and even though we don't think about the level of comfort that provides psychologically, it doesn't take a genius or a psychologist to figure out that when that image changes, it creates sort of a mental disconnect or some cognitive dissonance that just becomes one of those things that's hard for some people to get their head around,� he added.

Right Wing Zealots

Rep. Wilson said his emotions got the best of him when he inappropriately blurted out �You lie!� violating the protocols and decorum of the American political landscape. While in the hours immediately following his gaffe, Rep. Wilson was roundly condemned by many political commentators, the next day, his right wing supporters came to his defense.

The Secret Service reports that the rate of threats against the President has increased 400% since President Barack Obama took office in January as the first Black President of the United States.

Shortly following Pres. Obama's health care speech, consistent Obama critic Sean Hannity of FOX News called the president's September 9 address �a campaign speech full of partisan hackery.� Rep. Wilson was also given a chance to defend himself by answering softball questions lobbed at him during an appearance on Sean Hannity's Sept.10 television show.

During the September 10 edition of his radio show, bloviating conservative hardliner Rush Limbaugh also called Pres. Obama a liar and said he wished Rep. Joe Wilson had not apologized.

�I was shouting �you're lying' throughout the speech at the television,� Mr. Limbaugh said. �Joe Wilson simply articulated what millions of Americans were saying,� he added.

more at link

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Joe Wilson is a liar. Talking about the husband of Valarie Plane.

[ontheway]

Joe Wilson was right.

Two Obama lies on health care documented by news media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ea4GxYtT2Y&feature=ytn%3Amptnews